jammy1800 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 just thought i would get a discussion going. personally i think American gun laws (or seemingly complete absence of them) are way to loose. everyone in this forum may think it would be cool to own a couple of pistols and machine guns but surely everyone would agree that they are not really necessary (i can see a use for pistols for defence against bears or something a good idea in the US but not here). The main point however has to be that almost anyone can buy themselves a gun in America. Id prefer our gun laws than theres to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) I would feel much safer if I was carrying then if a chav threatend my with his uzi I would blow him away with my sawn off Edited February 8, 2009 by EdwardtheloneShooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 just thought i would get a discussion going. personally i think American gun laws (or seemingly complete absence of them) are way to loose. everyone in this forum may think it would be cool to own a couple of pistols and machine guns but surely everyone would agree that they are not really necessary (i can see a use for pistols for defence against bears or something a good idea in the US but not here). The main point however has to be that almost anyone can buy themselves a gun in America. Id prefer our gun laws than theres to be honest. Nice.. A personal jab I think you might want to get back on line a do some research.. Like i had said so many times before.. I do not agree with all laws, but they are mine.. If you allow a single right to be taken than then the government will surly try to take more.. It not people like you or I we watch out for but the thugs.. I am a lrage lad 320 pounds and i can hold my own against any man, but not against a person with a weapon.. i doubt i shall have any sort of problem, but should it happen? I am ready, besides i know how to shoot that which i carry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy1800 Posted February 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 but if u were to shoot someone in defence and kill them surely you would get put in prison? if no one was to carry guns in the first place others would not be tempted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 but if u were to shoot someone in defence and kill them surely you would get put in prison? if no one was to carry guns in the first place others would not be tempted to. here are two lawful scenarios for you? Lets say someone is threatening me and i am sure of bodily harm.. i will say," Stop i am armed." If the person still comes at me threatening me with bodily harm? Than i can take him out.. But my levels of use of force shall be different as i am a large man, than it would be for a 5' tall woman.. And should you empty a clip on the person when it wasnt needed? Than you go to jail.. Say you were over here for a visit? And you were getting roughed up? Legally i can help you as this is called 3rd person violence.. You must realize that there are so many more that shall never carry a gun then the actaul numbers that do, AND every one of us is well versed in when and when not to use force.. Most people that carry are aware of the responsibilty of having said weapon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 but if u were to shoot someone in defence and kill them surely you would get put in prison? if no one was to carry guns in the first place others would not be tempted to. So if all law abiding citizens were to hand in their guns they'd be ok, because all the local gangbangers would hand theirs in too? Can you spot the flaw in your arguement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Although the situation regarding gun ownership in the U.S.is fraught with the associated problems that it brings, I think the Yanks are right to vigourously defend their right to own arms. Beware the government that wants to completely disarm the civil populace. They`ve probably got something unpleasant in store for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay222 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 but if u were to shoot someone in defence and kill them surely you would get put in prison? if no one was to carry guns in the first place others would not be tempted to. people arent allowed to carry guns all the time in the uk but people still do and innocent people still get killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) i have guns on the farm in the usa, and i like there gun laws, and thats two carry guns for self defence.i would feel better if my wife could carry, i would like two carry if we were aloud,dont knock there laws they have all ways had, Edited February 8, 2009 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedbradshaw Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Why do we even bother talking about this ? it doesnt concern us and will always end up in a mass argument in which everyone will think they are right and others are wrong...no matter how well informed, or should i say ill informed they are !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Why do we even bother talking about this ? it doesnt concern us and will always end up in a mass argument in which everyone will think they are right and others are wrong...no matter how well informed, or should i say ill informed they are !! Because it is a topic that elicits emotion.. And is far more exciting than talking about the weather Do you not agree Mr. Reed Bradshaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 What intrigues me about this discussion is there are people who seem only to willing to tell the government "yes you are right, I am far too incompetent to be trusted with a firearm, so instead I will put my blind faith in the fact that you can possibly get a PCSO around in a couple of days or so in the event I or my family ever get attacked by criminals who take no notice of the laws of the land and have countless guns, pistols and full autos when they have been illegal in this country for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEREALTHRILLER Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 And is far more exciting than talking about the weather Oh I don't know - whats the weather like over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Oh I don't know - whats the weather like over there It is warm as hell dude.. I think we are in the 70's, and its about time i say.. Bloody snow, god awful stuff.. I am on the front porch as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEREALTHRILLER Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Yeah and check out the heat wave here in Scotland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaserman Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 but if u were to shoot someone in defence and kill them surely you would get put in prison? if no one was to carry guns in the first place others would not be tempted to. i take it that you have not heard about the handgun ban in the uk .......... what a sucsess that was .......... NOT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT WITH HAND GUNS SINCE 1997??? !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Yeah and check out the heat wave here in Scotland... Nice.. I have never seen an *** riding a Camel I have got to say that Scottland is much different than i had anticipated Good picture dude.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 I like American gun laws, I only wish we had them here in the UK. Actually to be fair what people don't know is that we do have a Second ammendment in the UK the 1689 act whch proclaimed that any Protestant may have a gun for self defence and made it a God given right, but that has now been superceded by draconian European anti-gun legislation. The 2nd Ammendment was based on the original British Act to Bear Arms. How far Britain has come from the good "ol days" I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy1800 Posted February 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 i take it that you have not heard about the handgun ban in the uk .......... what a sucsess that was .......... NOT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHOT WITH HAND GUNS SINCE 1997??? !!! yes people have been killed but you will never know how many would have been killed if the ban was not put in place. imagine the massacre if everyone could get there hands on a gun and ammo with no difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 yes people have been killed but you will never know how many would have been killed if the ban was not put in place. imagine the massacre if everyone could get there hands on a gun and ammo with no difficulty. You have guns? And what makes you different from those you say will kill people? Do you go around shooting people? Have you ever shot someone? I have, and was asked to do so for country? Does that make me unstable? Hell no.. Just makes me a better shot is all .. You need to focus on the thugs as they are the group of people that do the killing? Not blokes like you and I :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) Banning handguns will never work, it's being proved time over, Anyway, guns don't kill people, People kill people, they just use a gun. BJ. Edited February 10, 2009 by Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I'd rather have American gun laws than let people of the opinion that no one should carry them make the law. ..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Nice.. I have never seen an *** riding a Camel I have got to say that Scottland is much different than i had anticipated :yp: Good picture dude.. Lee mate, I know your foreign, but those aren't camels, it's his wife and mother in law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Lee mate, I know your foreign, but those aren't camels, it's his wife and mother in law HOLY ****!! They must be French Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 HOLY ****!! They must be French No if they were French they would have a moustache and bad breath, AND they'd be on strike blockading the ports and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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