rabbithunter Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Just started to reload for my 223 and today was the first time i had a chance to get out and try my loads heres a picture of my last 3 shot group @ 100 yards with 25.0g of reloder 15 and nosler 55g ballistic tip . I can say i was more then happy with my first reloads,I started off low with 22.5g and work it up to 25g ,and a COL of 2.250.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 good do RH, cant get much better mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Stick to that Combo .................Anything else will end in frustation and tears .I speak from experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Stick to that Combo .................Anything else will end in frustation and tears .I speak from experience Thats what i was thinking to ,so i,ve made up another 50 today :o Can i ask how do other people work up there loads and does anyone know how many grains there are in a lb. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) http://www.imrpowder.com/data/shotshell/sh...FERENCE%20TABLE Edited February 14, 2009 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 That will do Rabbithunter,you couldnt realy improve on that.I am thinking of going down the roll your own route @ a £1 a bang its getting expensive and there is the accuracy improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) http://www.imrpowder.com/data/shotshell/sh...FERENCE%20TABLE Thanks for that, looking at the powder table i should get 280 loads from a lb tube of powder Cheers Richard Edited February 14, 2009 by rabbithunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 That will do Rabbithunter,you couldnt realy improve on that.I am thinking of going down the roll your own route @ a £1 a bang its getting expensive and there is the accuracy improvement. Yip i,am very happy with that and i,ve just worked it out, it will cost me 40p a round, so thats a lot better then a £1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Excellent group you will struggle to improve on that. What rifle did you use though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 my 223 is shooting a 5 shot group of an inch at 200yds with 50 grain v-max 24 grains of n133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim682e Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Nice group there. The Reloader powders are as I've found very good. I have been using Reloder 19 in my .243 & 30.06 for years with very good results. I bought some Reloader 15 a couple of months back to reload some 80 grain .243 rounds but yet haven't had a chance to try it to see what its like. Casting an eye in the reload manual gives a quoted 3081fps with 25.3 grains of Reloader 15 and 3390fps with 28.0 grain compression load and that's whistling along for your calibre. May the winds blow light and your groups be tight mate. Jim Edited February 18, 2009 by Jim682e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Nice group there. The Reloader powders are as I've found very good. I have been using Reloder 19 in my .243 & 30.06 for years with very results. I bought some Reloader 15 a couple of months back to reload some 80 grain .243 rounds but yet haven't had a chance to try it to see what its like. Casting an eye in the reload manual gives a quoted 3081fps with 25.3 grains of Reloader 15 and 3390fps with 28.0 grain compression load and that's whistling along for your calibre. May the winds blow light and your groups be tight mate. Jim Jim as i,am new to reloading can i ask is it safe to compess a load ? The load data i have did give the max load of 28.0 grains, Cheers Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim682e Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I've only compressed loaded my 30.06 rounds with Reloader 19 mate. All i will say is use caution and look for signs of high pressure IE pushed out or mushrooming of the primers. I have had this happen when loading like this but its not a regular thing. Just be on the look out for it and if it happens i would use a different powder that you cant compression load, if you find that things seam to be fine use it but just remember the pressure signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninj Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Excellent work mate, I'd be chuffed to bits with that. Thats what i was thinking to ,so i,ve made up another 50 today Can i ask how do other people work up there loads and does anyone know how many grains there are in a lb. Richard 7000 grains to a lb Edited February 25, 2009 by Ninj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snare1 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 just as a thought the water capacity for the223 is 28.12 grains, check your scales if your having to compress 28grs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Richard you asked is it safe to use compressed loads? It depends. Nosler quotes a maximum compressed load using 28 grains of Hodgdon Benchmark in the .223. However Hodgdon themselves show a maximum load of 27.3 grains. Also brass capacity varies from one manufacturer to another. The best thing to do is follow the manuals which invariably recommend to start with at least 10% below maximum and always approach maximum loads with caution. Also it is worth noting that by pouring powder slowly into the case you will find it actually settles better and is merely a full case rather than compressed. In my experience powders that tend to fill the case provide more accurate loads, but I tend to stick with powders that don't need to be compressed to get the best results. Watching for pressure signs is also something that can be misleading and dangerous. Flattened primers or loose primer pockets and sticky bolts are all signs of trouble, but without sophisticated test equipment you have no idea what the actual pressure is by a visual inspection. Is it 60,000psi or 70,000psi? At the end of the day it's your face that is inches away from an explosive. You are far better off in my view following the manufacturers advice and working up carefully from a starting load. In any event with the groups you have now why bother trying to improve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted March 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Rem 223 thanks for your post and the info , i have stopped at 25gr and feel no need to try and improve thing . ATB Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hello, mate, Just like everyone else that group impressed the hell out of me! I just had to have a shufti. My loading tables for your 25gr give 3100fps (using Lee's fiddle factor which he calls an enhancement factor). Because the group showed such potential, I wound up the Sierra Infinity Suite Exterior Ballistics software propgramme. Obviously, mate I don't know what range you normally shoot at or why you zeroed at 100. Perhaps the two are linked or perhaps because the 100 is "standard". The Sierra programme saves a lot of time, money and effort in finding out what happens at various range and it has your particular bullet within the programme. If you'd like an idea of the result of zeroing at different ranges, just say and I'll be happy to do it for you. Alternatively, I won't be offended if you tell me to shove off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Hello, mate,Just like everyone else that group impressed the hell out of me! I just had to have a shufti. My loading tables for your 25gr give 3100fps (using Lee's fiddle factor which he calls an enhancement factor). Because the group showed such potential, I wound up the Sierra Infinity Suite Exterior Ballistics software propgramme. Obviously, mate I don't know what range you normally shoot at or why you zeroed at 100. Perhaps the two are linked or perhaps because the 100 is "standard". The Sierra programme saves a lot of time, money and effort in finding out what happens at various range and it has your particular bullet within the programme. If you'd like an idea of the result of zeroing at different ranges, just say and I'll be happy to do it for you. Alternatively, I won't be offended if you tell me to shove off. wymberley yes please the results will come in handy for the summer and a spot of long range bunnies busting ,I had planned on chronographing the round this weekend and trying it out with the exbal . TVM Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Ok, Rich, What different zero ranges would you like and what maximum range? What is the height of the centre-line of your scope above the barrel centre-line (somewhere around 2" perhaps). I'll also factor in a 10mph crosswind for additional info. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithunter Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Phil how about best zero with the less + and - out to 300 yards ,scope is height 1.5 Edited March 10, 2009 by rabbithunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Rich, Ok, culminating point is about 185 yards. Onto it now Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Rich, I think you're still there. job done. got 3 zero ranges but I think this could be down to personal preference. Going to (try to) E-mail you. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Rich, Ok for175yd zero:- Bullet Path Wind Drift Bullet Path Wind Drift 25 -.5 .1 200 -1 4.6 50 .3 .3 225 -2.4 5.9 75 .8 .6 250 -4.2 7.4 100 1.1 1.1 275 -6.5 9.1 125 1 1.7 300 -9.1 11 150 .7 2.5 175 0 3.5 Hope it helps. Good shooting. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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