pavman Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have been shooting 60 grain VMax in my Tikka 223 now the water deer cant be shot I was thinking of dropping to Hornady 40 Grain VMax as my local shop can get them for me and not to expensive, very fast low drop rate etc,,,mate used them in his 22-250 and said they did not suit him what do we think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 50 grain v-max you know it makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hi, Out of interest, ran the ballistics on Sierra, both V Max, both 150yd zero, both 2" sighht centre. 40gr 55gr Drop wind 10mph cross Drop wind 10mph cross 250 -4.2 8.8 -4.1 7.0 300 -8.6 13.2 -8.4 10.4 Muzzle velocity for my 55gr is 3350fps, the 40 at 3500. If you want, I am happy to modify the figurest o whatever you would like to have a look at. If the above seems a bit queer, the ballistic co-efficient for the 40 is 0.200 whereas the 55 is 0.255. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The 40's are fantastic, I have used them in my Remington .223. Forget about drop, for the most part (in .223 range), just account for any wind and watch Charles fall over very dead. Most of them do not exit the animal, which makes me like them even more I have been using 55's for the past while because I ran out of 40's and just happened to have the 55's in the safe. I've 100 40 grainers reserved for me and should be collecting them in the next few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The 40's are fantastic, I have used them in my Remington .223. Forget about drop, for the most part (in .223 range), just account for any wind and watch Charles fall over very dead. Most of them do not exit the animal, which makes me like them even more I have been using 55's for the past while because I ran out of 40's and just happened to have the 55's in the safe. I've 100 40 grainers reserved for me and should be collecting them in the next few days what load would you use for the 40 grainers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Pavman, Im having trouble (again) layout looks good until I hit Add Reply then it all goes pear shaped as though my space bar key isn't being recognised, even though I hit enter. I'll explain the top row of figures, bottom as per. 250 is range, -4.2 is drop, 8.8 is wind, both for 40gr. Next two figures are the same for 55gr. Should you like more, I'll PM it. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I'm not allowed to reload. I use the Hornady factory ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) I'm using 40gr V-max in my .22-250..... I'm very happy with it...... A lot of Foxes arent...... Edited April 23, 2009 by The Burpster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 shoot whichever one your rifle likes better. Ballistics out to 300 will be about the same. terminal effect about the same. If you rifle likes both, pick whichever one you can get a deal on. If your buddy doesn't like the 40's now and have a bunch to sell you (providing they shoot in your rifle), take them. Thanks rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Pavman, Im having trouble (again) layout looks good until I hit Add Reply then it all goes pear shaped as though my space bar key isn't being recognised, even though I hit enter. I'll explain the top row of figures, bottom as per. 250 is range, -4.2 is drop, 8.8 is wind, both for 40gr. Next two figures are the same for 55gr. Should you like more, I'll PM it. Cheers I went on the Hornady site ballistics calculator for a 10 MPH cross wind they give a drift of 4.8 inches @ 200 and 11.7 @ 300 for 40 grain and for the 60 grain 6.2@ 200 and a massive 15.5 @ 300 (i put a zero of 150)- I zero 1 inch hi at 100 so it looks like the 40 grain is a cracking round to cut the wind due to the speed (i guess) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Hi, Pavman, Thanks for the tip, I didn't know about the Hornady calculator site; have always used the Sierra Infinity Suite. Are you sure you haven't got the 40 and 60gr figures mixed up? I ran your 40 and 60 with a (hopefully) sensible 3500 and 3000fps respectively at 200 and 300 yds on both programmes which agreed to within one decimal point. 40 at 10mph gave 5.4 at 200 and 13.1 at 300. 60 gave 4.7 at 200 and 11.5 at 300. Ballistic co-efficient of 60gr, 0.265. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Hi, Pavman, Thanks for the tip, I didn't know about the Hornady calculator site; have always used the Sierra Infinity Suite. Are you sure you haven't got the 40 and 60gr figures mixed up? I ran your 40 and 60 with a (hopefully) sensible 3500 and 3000fps respectively at 200 and 300 yds on both programmes which agreed to within one decimal point. 40 at 10mph gave 5.4 at 200 and 13.1 at 300. 60 gave 4.7 at 200 and 11.5 at 300. Ballistic co-efficient of 60gr, 0.265. Cheers umm maybe i screwed up the BC, where do you get yours from? 60 gr., .265 B.C. www.hornady.com Range (yards) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500 Velocity (fps) 2950 2773 2602 2280 1981 1707 1465 Energy (ft.-lb.) 1159 1024 902 692 523 388 286 Trajectory (150 yd. zero) -1.5 0.2 0.7 -2.2 -11.8 -30.4 -61.1 Wind Drift (inches) 0.0 0.3 1.1 4.9 11.8 22.6 38.2 Come Up in MOA -1.5 -0.3 -0.7 1.0 3.8 7.3 11.7 Wind Drift (moa) 0.00 0.50 1.07 2.32 3.76 5.41 7.29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'm using 40gr V-max in my .22-250..... I'm very happy with it...... A few Muntjack and lots of Foxes arent...... Can you use 40gr on munty's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 No.... 50grn min Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Pavman, We agree: the slight discrepency between each of our last set of figures is simply down to your 2950 and my3000. I got the BC from Sierra and Hornady (products, bullets - there is no 60 V Max in the products, ammunition). There's been some good posts on this one, but the reasons why I use 55 is that you get a minimum bullet drop at my self imposed max. of 300 yards consistant with minimum windage effect and good enery at the300. Also, my Tikka 223 varmint stainless cost what to me is a lot of money. Two things wear out a barrel: The number of rounds down it which, if your'e going to use it, is beyond your control and secondly, the speed of those rounds. Hornady load 40gr at 3800fps. No thanks, my 3350 is fast enough. Cheers and good shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Pavman,We agree: the slight discrepency between each of our last set of figures is simply down to your 2950 and my3000. I got the BC from Sierra and Hornady (products, bullets - there is no 60 V Max in the products, ammunition). There's been some good posts on this one, but the reasons why I use 55 is that you get a minimum bullet drop at my self imposed max. of 300 yards consistant with minimum windage effect and good enery at the300. Also, my Tikka 223 varmint stainless cost what to me is a lot of money. Two things wear out a barrel: The number of rounds down it which, if your'e going to use it, is beyond your control and secondly, the speed of those rounds. Hornady load 40gr at 3800fps. No thanks, my 3350 is fast enough. Cheers and good shooting some very good points, to be fair my 60 grains have gone really well as its served me for Munties, water deer (in season) and fox a good deal, my local smiffy had run out of 60's and was pushing the 40's I really do like Hornady but a special order for 60's is around £15 postage On my small marsh/fields drop is not a problem most shots are 100-200 so i may just stick to the 60's,,, but the 40's sound like they are fun for JohnG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 but the 40's sound like they are fun for JohnG I love them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I love them what barrel/twist you got John my Tikka T3 Lite is an 8 twist seems to suit the heavy rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 1 in 12 26inch barrel on my Remmy Pavman, mind you my last rifle was a Tikka T3 (with a suspicious barrel) 1 in 8 with a 24 inch barrel if I remember right, and the round it shot best were 50 grain Federal bulk pack rounds, supposed to be the same as American Eagles but they weren't as they had different coloured stuff coming out the primers and had different POI. Are you shooting factory loads or handloads? If they're factory loads and you're not going from copper coated to moly coated then I'd say buy a box or two, shoot them at targets and see how they do. Handloads I guess would work out more expensive with working up a load for them to see the best results. All I can basically tell you is that they'll drop a fox as good as anything I've ever used, most won't exit the animal unless shot low or in the head, and I got a bit spoilt by the flatter trajectory than the 55's so I was "Oh, look a fox" *Point & shoot*. Longest fox I got was 250 yards and that was a fairly windy night. I'm on my last two 55's now, and I will be replacing them with 40 grainers again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie223 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 55 works a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 stick with ur 60's mate or @ worst go to 55's with 25.5-27.5g of varget behind them simply awesome best shot to date 547 yd bunny 313yd fox great acuracy also have a few roe north of the border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Are you shooting factory loads or handloads? Hornady factory John, I tested shed loads when i got the Tikka and wanted an (all round) load for fox and deer so there was no need to re zero or change, the 60 Vmax is a great round in my 8 twist, I did target test the 40's and by gooly do they fly but i needed the bigger round to be legal on the water deer stick with ur 60's mate or @ worst go to 55's with 25.5-27.5g of varget behind them simply awesomebest shot to date 547 yd bunny 313yd fox great acuracy nice roe tommy, will stick with teh 60's till they run out and hope my smiffy gets some more in, .223 is not easy to get round my way, plenty in .243 also have a few roe north of the border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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