Trigger/Brain issues.

[MC]

I would echo the fact that your gun doesn't fit you, if you want the number of a superb gunsmith who has a try gun (Which is the only way to fit a gun) then let me know. This guy is based in colchester and has his own shooting ground. He will take you there and get you to shoot a number of easy clays and I bet after 100 or so you will kn ow what you are doing and what you are doing wrong.

 

To me your gun looks too long, the recoil reducer will take some getting use to. It took me about 8 weeks to get used to mine and I was having the opposite problem to you, I was pulling the trigger when I didn't mean to.

 

Cheers

 

Martin

[The Sipe-ist]

I think although gun fit could be an issue, it is more likely to be the fear of missing. This in turn makes you try too hard and in trying to make sure of the shot,causing you to miss that all important timing. I bet sometimes on slower / easier clays you have two takes at the shot before pulling the trigger. It is the same problem but on the slow crosser for instance you can still successfully get the clay so you think it less of an issue.

Edited May 4, 2009 by The Sipe-ist

[Chard]

I was pulling the trigger when I didn't mean to.

 

Cheers

 

Martin

 

 

I do that sometimes

 

What's that a sign of Martin? Did you get to find out?

[MC]

I think it was more to do with the stock moving and my shoulder wasn't. It was a bit of a strange feeling to get used to. Couple that with the light trigger on the F3 and Bob's your uncle.

[George1990]

I get it at least once when doing a round of 100 clays. Got nought to do with recoil, stance or that stuff. Just a mental thing. I think in my head "now" and instead of my finger going, my arm flinches and comes back.

 

This only happens when I think 'now' it seems, as thinking it becomes a substitute for moving my finger.

[Wookie]

I've never had the problem where your mind thinks now and the body doesn't react by pulling the trigger, but I have had a couple of instances where my finger has pulled the trigger before my mind was 100% on the case. Think about it, they were both on stands with battues, I hate battues.

 

I say this now, fully expecting to have it happen to me in the future, but I have never had my trigger finger fail to pull when my mind says go. Ever.

 

Pete, try the middle finger thing. Something different might just work. other than that, just try and relax. There really is no one to beat but yourself, and you don't need to be that stressed.

[Peter De La Mare]

Two trigger freezes on the 100 birder, and one on the 50 bird pool shoot.

 

Not sure what to attribute the improvement to, tried two things to start with. Having different ambition for the day, not aiming for a certain level of performance, and carrying my cartridge box with my left hand. Sounds totally stupid, but it carries 125 shells, which weigh a bit, and the hard plastic handle digs in a little, so I though that it may be doing something to my fingers.... pumping up the muscle? Who knows, so I swapped hands.

 

You're probably laughing out loud at that, and I don't blame you, my shooting partner laughed and pointed at me, but maybe there's something in it? Will see next time.

[Chard]

Two trigger freezes on the 100 birder, and one on the 50 bird pool shoot.

 

Not sure what to attribute the improvement to, tried two things to start with. Having different ambition for the day, not aiming for a certain level of performance, and carrying my cartridge box with my left hand. Sounds totally stupid, but it carries 125 shells, which weigh a bit, and the hard plastic handle digs in a little, so I though that it may be doing something to my fingers.... pumping up the muscle? Who knows, so I swapped hands.

 

You're probably laughing out loud at that, and I don't blame you, my shooting partner laughed and pointed at me, but maybe there's something in it? Will see next time.

 

 

You didn't try the middle finger, did you?

 

[Peter De La Mare]

I didn't on the day, but it IS on the list. Didn't want to try too many things at once. Did the whole 'performance stress management' today, the cartridge case thing was incidental.

 

Will try the middle finger plan at the next shoot.

[Catamong]

Some good advice here, and some misleading advice.

 

I would suggest you definitely try the middle finger approach, and also shoot some 21 gram loads for a bit, probably over skeet targets.

 

Try not to be too tired or hungover before shooting a competition, as a number of people have suggested, most flinches are the result of a fear of missing in competitions.

 

Also, if any experienced competition shot tells you it's never happened to them, then they're telling porkies.

 

Cat.

[Peter De La Mare]

Thanks Cat.

[Fatcatsplat]

I remember reading on a gunsmith's website about the happy bloke that runs Dartford had his gun converted to fire on trigger release - When he was committed to the shot he pulled the trigger and released it when he wanted to fire - Bit drastic, but try having a google on it - The gunsmith was in Kent somewhere or other.

 

Oh and EE, Mungler whinged as well when we shot the Kent Velocity cartridges a couple of months back.......Mind you, so did I!!

Edited May 7, 2009 by Fatcatsplat

[jonnyoftheboy]

I remember reading on a gunsmith's website about the happy bloke that runs Dartford had his gun converted to fire on trigger release - When he was committed to the shot he pulled the trigger and released it when he wanted to fire - Bit drastic, but try having a google on it - The gunsmith was in Kent somewhere or other.

 

Oh and EE, Mungler whinged as well when we shot the Kent Velocity cartridges a couple of months back.......Mind you, so did I!!

 

the gunsmith was most probably Tim Greenwood..... he is a regular at Dartford, is based in Pembury nr Tunbridge wells

 

http://www.greenwoodgunsmiths.co.uk/

[windrush]

occasionally I used to not release my finger off the trigger and the second shot would not engage. Adding a recoil reducer allowed the gun to move a couple mm. Back on firing and this allowed the trigger to reset

 

I have to admit that I suffer from this quite a lot. I find if I've missed a couple and then concentrate really, really hard on setup/technique etc., then I generally hit the target but don't release the trigger for the second shot (I usually blame it on a bad batch of cartridges!). It's a dilemma - concentrate and hit the first bird or relax and miss both.