pete evans Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 i have shot a couple of thousand clear pigeon without a hitch. last box of 250 had 4 shells where the fibre wad was skewed in the case creating a bulge that meant that the shell was really tight going into the chamber. i didnt fire the shells but was wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem. if its a regular thing i may consider a diferent shell pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have seen some similar to what you have described. Take them back to your gunshop and change them. I dont recommend you to try and fire any of them. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrie0 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have just started to use these on my permission and find them a cracking cartridge that seems to pattern well . Have not noticed any defects yet , but will keep an eye on them now Pete as I will have to buy some tommorow for the weekend . How much are yours round your way here at Coleys they are £36 for 250 felt 6,s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I have just started to use these on my permission and find them a cracking cartridge that seems to pattern well . Have not noticed any defects yet , but will keep an eye on them now Pete as I will have to buy some tommorow for the weekend . How much are yours round your way here at Coleys they are £36 for 250 felt 6,s Barrie, I have just paid £118-00 for 1000 felt 12g no6's LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete evans Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 cant remember but not much over the ton for 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrie0 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Aye LB he is not the cheapest , I may in the future use justcartridges for them although I can still get the Saga 's cheap in Gloucester and they aint a bad shell . Coleys don't stock the sagas as when I mentioned them he muttered something about crappy cheap carts , still at least he speaks now took him around 6 visits though . :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Try Hull Special Pigeon 32g 70mm fibre. Good hard hitting cartridge at an economical price. I'll fax anyone my shop price list if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fert Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Aye LB he is not the cheapest , I may in the future use justcartridges for them although I can still get the Saga 's cheap in Gloucester and they aint a bad shell . Coleys don't stock the sagas as when I mentioned them he muttered something about crappy cheap carts , still at least he speaks now took him around 6 visits though . :thumbs: dont you find sagas to be a bit on the load side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrie0 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 dont you find sagas to be a bit on the load side. Bit confused on that one Fert If you mean they are **** , no far from it the Saga competicion (that is spelt right) clay cart 28grams fibre 7 1/2 is a cracker I have more confidence in it's abilities than the eley firsts and last time I bought them they worked out around £2.50 a box . Have also tried out the Saga export 32 fibre 6's for pigeons,crows and they seemed a cracking cart as well , I can't remember the price but they were cheap they are made by a respected spanish company and don't forget you can get some cracking spanish shotguns at good prices as well . If Coleys stocked these I would buy them all the time its just where we get supplies for work , the shop is opposite Coleys gunshop so I get free parking and can buy my carts in works time rather than make the trip into Gloucester and muck about finding a parking space . http://www.saga.es/angles/home.html A few people up the clay club use Sagas also and also reckon you cant beat them for price/performance . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMY Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Don't want to upset all you Techy guys , but don't you find if you point it in the right place it comes down :thumbs:?? It works for me, Rio Trap 7.5's for Doos and crows and the heavier game loads for Pheasant/game 6 @ 32 grm. If your shooting Hundreds and maybe housands of carts a season on your land buying the cart that suits you and can afford, is the biz. Dunno maybe I see it too simple. Can you tell I'm in the mood to wind it tonight??? (Dubochi) Sorry. Hammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fert Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 its a simple question. do you find them loader than other carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Do you mean louder?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fert Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 yes sorry mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrie0 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 "its a simple question. do you find them loader than other carts" No, as I don't carry a decibel meter around with me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 i dont go in coleys anymore mate i think hes an arrogant plonker i either use bredon gunshop or a gunshop in cricklade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fert Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 you dont need a meter pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrie0 Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Fert , I was being sarcastic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fert Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 you know what they say about sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 I've been using the Saga 32gm 6s for a while now and I think they are excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 I've also heard that SAGA is a club for the elderley who give discounts on overseas holidays. Does SAGA really mean: 'Senile but able to get about'? Just a thought! Rob. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 It stands for Send A Granny Away :( :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carper1948 Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hello, Just adding my personnel experience after using 3000 Saga 12G cartridges with no misfires or any other problems. I changed to the Saga brand of 12G cartridges primarily because of the higher muzzle velocity averaging around 1450fps. This high velocity should give greater effective striking energy for a given size pellet and longer effective range. At first, using my 1/4 Teague-choke in Beretta 303 SA, I was whacking the pigeons and bringing them down but not getting the normal clean kills which was a bit of a mystery. After making a few inquiries I discovered Spanish shot size is slightly different to the UK shot size. I was informed that Spanish size-6 shot is actually bigger than the UK size-6, being nearer to the UK shot size-5! Well I changed the Teague 1/4 choke to the 1/2 choke and everything was back to normal ........well nearly, as I can now drop birds regularly at 50 yards with these Saga 36gram High-Speed 6's (UK 5's). The 36gm High-Speed cartridges do thump on the shoulder and I now use these mainly for evening roosting shooting where some of the birds will be at long range. For shooting over decoys I use the Saga 32gram Export cartridge, shot-size 6 again with 1/2 choke, which is a little easier on the shoulder. Hope this information is useful to someone? Regards Carper1948 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmanabu Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 What are the nearest and best places for cartridges in gloucester or within a 20 mile radius? I only know of coley's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I have just started to use these on my permission and find them a cracking cartridge that seems to pattern well . Have not noticed any defects yet , but will keep an eye on them now Pete as I will have to buy some tommorow for the weekend . How much are yours round your way here at Coleys they are ?36 for 250 felt 6,s Barrie, I have just paid ?118-00 for 1000 felt 12g no6's LB Where from LB I need to get some.? D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I've also heard that SAGA is a club for the elderley who give discounts on overseas holidays. Does SAGA really mean: 'Senile but able to get about'? Just a thought! Rob. I live not far away from their HQ and see coachloads of the so called SAGALOUTS being "deported" to Spain for the winter months, makes me shiver to think im now in my Fifties and qualify for membership D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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