sapper063 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 right lasses and lads i hear a lot about these trigger kits but what if its your first cz 452 how would you know if it is a good trigger or not, as im tight fisted(wife says) so i dont want to spend money if i dont have to, seriousley how can you tell when a bought it i was told it was pulling at about 2lb but that meant didderly swat to me , is it really worth it :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) right lasses and lads i hear a lot about these trigger kits but what if its your first cz 452 how would you know if it is a good trigger or not, as im tight fisted(wife says) so i dont want to spend money if i dont have to, seriousley how can you tell when a bought it i was told it was pulling at about 2lb but that meant didderly swat to me , is it really worth it :yp: Yes it is very much worth doing, I have 3 CZ and have fitted out another 4 for other shooters, all of who have said the triggers are much improved by being lighter, the mod takes no more than 15 mins and takes up the creep and awful time lag between coming on to target and actually releasing the sear, some CZ are perfect from the factory but most are not and the trigger pull weight differs from gun to gun, having done my own guns I would say its a great improvement at very little cost. Rgds D2D Edited July 13, 2009 by dusk2dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 All they do is reduces the weight of pull, and in some cases the creap as well, it isn't a 'trigger kit' as such. If you are happy with yours there would be no point in fitting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 see if you can find someone with one thats been done and try it, they make a big difference to some cz's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 One of the best purchases I've ever made. One set does 2 rifles. 12 quid, bargain, I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper063 Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 thanks for input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 If as you say the trigger is at 2lb pull on a new one,that's great,most new Cz's are around 5lb when new,all my Cz's are fitted with spring kits,i've not used the little tube at all in mine as i'm happy with the way it is. Alan :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) Put it this way... If a feather touched the trigger on my .17hmr it'll go off! Ok not that sensitive, but everyone who shoots my gun says they're amazed at the trigger. Edited July 13, 2009 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Who's CZ was it that failed a drop test at Bisley last year? I can't remember now, but you can go too light, to the point of being unsafe unless it is a target rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Mine fail a drop test. I've tried it. Is it really that bad?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Mine fail a drop test. I've tried it. Is it really that bad?! Well D'urrrr! Get it fixed, I don't want a HMR shape hole in my back ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well D'urrrr! Get it fixed, I don't want a HMR shape hole in my back ta Well D'urrrr! Safety catch will suffice :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 mine passed a 5 mile an hour out the window of the Frontera on to gravelled track test. The scope failed (now fixed by two blokes leaning on it in opposite direction) and there's a nasty gouge in the stock. But the trigger is joy, i used the medium spring from the kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I don't want a HMR shape hole in my back ta Secondly, I wouldn't be worried if it were a windy day, it'd just get blown off course, even over 6 yards :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Mine fail a drop test. I've tried it. Is it really that bad?! From what you say you have gone too light, its not safe and you should never rely on the safety. If I where you I would go back a spring pronto, You would be Billy No Mates as far as I,m concerned as I certainly would not come out with you :look: Rgds D2D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 From what you say you have gone too light, its not safe and you should never rely on the safety. If I where you I would go back a spring pronto, You would be Billy No Mates as far as I,m concerned as I certainly would not come out with you Rgds D2D. Quite rightly, you should never rely on a safety. However, you have to remember that the safety on a rifle completely disengages the bolt and it is impossible to fire the gun with the safety on, as it's actually put a piece of metal between the pin and bolt. (Unless you manage to accidentally unclick the safety, but that's quite a careless feat) I wouldn't ever trust a shotty safety, like I do a rifle. The fact of the matter is, if I'm carrying the rifle, it's over my shoulder, with a sling, with the bolt either open or closed with the safety on. When I'm about to shoot, the safety comes off. My triggers are set to what I want and I know exactly what it takes to fire the gun. I tried all the springs and metal tubes in every combination and finally settled on the lightest touch ones. I take it you will not go shooting with someone who has a target rifle then? Or am i not as trustworthy and safe as they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Mine fail a drop test. I've tried it. Is it really that bad?! Now i really have heard one of the worst opinions on here......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Now i really have heard one of the worst opinions on here......... A statement of opinion doesn't end with a question mark. If you read it properly, it's actually sarcastic. Evidently the sign of a man trawling back though my posts to pick up on something so that you can get one over me after your slating in the airgun ban topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Quite rightly, you should never rely on a safety. However, you have to remember that the safety on a rifle completely disengages the bolt and it is impossible to fire the gun with the safety on, as it's actually put a piece of metal between the pin and bolt. (Unless you manage to accidentally unclick the safety, but that's quite a careless feat) I wouldn't ever trust a shotty safety, like I do a rifle. The fact of the matter is, if I'm carrying the rifle, it's over my shoulder, with a sling, with the bolt either open or closed with the safety on. When I'm about to shoot, the safety comes off. My triggers are set to what I want and I know exactly what it takes to fire the gun. I tried all the springs and metal tubes in every combination and finally settled on the lightest touch ones. I take it you will not go shooting with someone who has a target rifle then? Or am i not as trustworthy and safe as they are? You possibly a very safe shot, my worry would be that the rifle might be accidently dropped and discharge with me in the way. Target shooting as I,m sure you know is a world away from fieldsports and a very strict discipline with its own set of range safety rules. Im not criticising you, my rifles are all set with very light triggers but I have drop tested them and I have no such concerns when out with mates. Rgds D2D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Back to original question, how easy is the moficiation to make and how much do you need to know about taking your gun to bits to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 http://fuzzylimey.net/projects/452triggermods.html heres about the best description of the process I've seen, and I'm also one who wouldn't shoot with someone if I knew their rifle was dangerous which it is if it fails the drop test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Will, you might get away with just winding the spring you have in there up a bit, I doubt you need to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I've done the triggers on all my Cz's, but, tried the tube and it failed the drop test,so OUT in came,I certainly would not want to take it into the field as such.The trigger can be lightened just a little more by screwing up the adjuster,but, it only makes a VERY small difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Isn't lightening it screwing it down a bit willy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I always thought that you had to screw it UP as it shortens the length,still not sure now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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