Pistol Grip on Mossberg 500

[Shuck.]

The Mossberg already comes with a 5+1 magazine tube that's blocked off. If you get your S1 cert then get a smith to convert it won't that be good enough for PSG or do you need 7+1 up to be competitive?

 

Are there other classes for lower capacity firearms, or is it just 2+1 and S1 capacity?

 

P.S. neil smith you have PM

Edited August 1, 2009 by Shuck.

[neil smith]

Shuck

 

In smaller none IPSC club matches you tend to get everyone thrown in together which means a semi auto shooter will usually win, only IPSC currently seperate the pump scores & create a seperate division.

 

You can only have 9 rounds in the gun at the start of each stage but once the timer is running you can add as many as your gun will hold, as a result most top shooters run a gun that will hold eleven (10+1) that alows for a grab of 4 shells (as demonstrated in the video) to fit into the gun once a single shot has been taken.

 

N

[Shuck.]

So I take it there's no place for a 5+1 cap in PSG unless you're godlike in reloading

When you say you can only have 9 rounds in the mag, do you mean maximum or manditory?

Then again there's probably no point in bringing a pump if you're up against autos anyway.

Edited August 1, 2009 by Shuck.

[Guest]

Well I heard there are guys who can load pumps and shoot with them faster than people with semi-autos. My Mossberg is much easier to reload than a Hatsan since the hatsan you have to depress the button each time to load in the magazine and you also have the guard which slaps your fingers and you can get them jammed in the guard if trying to load too fast, so from a purely loading point of view I can definately say that loading my Mossberg is faster.

[neil smith]

So I take it there's no place for a 5+1 cap in PSG unless you're godlike in reloading

When you say you can only have 9 rounds in the mag, do you mean maximum or manditory?

Then again there's probably no point in bringing a pump if you're up against autos anyway.

 

Its perfectly within the rules to use a 5+1 if you want but your gonna get owned at the first stage if its an eight target speed shoot, the top guys will have them down before you can get that 7th cartridge loaded, I guarantee you will enjoy yourself but its a certainty that you will want to compete as best you can once you try it & that will mean getting a higher capacity.

 

IPSC rules limit the number of rounds in the gun to 9 but thats only at the "start", but once the beep goes off if your gun will hold more than 9 then you can put them in, but as our scoring is a combination of time as well as points there is a point where loading when you should be shooting is reached, once a stage starts its very rare that you will need to "fill" the gun right up again & its far faster to shoot then load a few every time you change shooting positions until you reach the end.

 

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Edited August 1, 2009 by neil smith

[neil smith]

Well I heard there are guys who can load pumps and shoot with them faster than people with semi-autos.

 

 

In a straight stand still race with a line of targets the auto guy should win but that is not how PSG works, in many stages its deciding the order you wish to shoot the targets & reloading during movement between target arrays that has a greater effect on the time & its not uncommon to see pump gunners posting faster stage times than guys with Semi's.

 

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Edited August 1, 2009 by neil smith

[Shuck.]

Well I heard there are guys who can load pumps and shoot with them faster than people with semi-autos. My Mossberg is much easier to reload than a Hatsan since the hatsan you have to depress the button each time to load in the magazine and you also have the guard which slaps your fingers and you can get them jammed in the guard if trying to load too fast, so from a purely loading point of view I can definately say that loading my Mossberg is faster.

 

I know I shoot a lot faster with the Mossberg then the Escort but I was thinking more about the Beretta Semi's.

Christ the Escort has done so much damage to me thumb trying to just put a second cartridge in for clays and that's not even in a rush.

[mossy835]

escorts are nice guns, but two load a bit of a pain.

[Guest]

I remember when I first bought my Hatsan Escort on the first day loading it on the range, I caught my thumb in the magazine load latch, ripped half my nail off.

[Shuck.]

Yep good guns mine cycles 21g+ only found one make it don't like. (Lyvalves 28g if you ask).

Easiest gun I've ever seen to strip right down to the pins, only problem is I haven't found a way to remove the mag tube, is it possible?

[Guest]

I have used 28G Lyvale and had no problems with them, might be different guns have different features. Every gun is different even though they are the same make.

[Shuck.]

I have used 28G Lyvale and had no problems with them, might be different guns have different features. Every gun is different even though they are the same make.

 

Yea Escorts are like that, no single 2 the same by the sounds of things. Some like light some heavy, some small some big, You either love them or despise them.

[Guest]

Well I definately love Escorts, so far mine has been reliable, no jams or misfires.

[Evil Elvis]

Just tricked up my remmy 1100.........

 

[Guest]

Hey nice one Elvis! It looks really good.

[Evil Elvis]

Really comfortable to carry and a lot lighter!!!!! With the extra full choke the pigeons dont twitch when they hit the deck!

[cdb]

Damn I want to modify my mossberg for practical shotgun and eventually get mag extension for FAC when/if I get it. I guess I'll just have to mod the hatsan instead.

 

I know this conversation has moved on a bit, but in responses to the above, is it a case of just doing this:

 

 

??

[Guest]

NO. It is Illegal to modify a shotgun to accept more than 2 cartridges in the magazine and one in the chamber without the firearm licence, unless you facny a 5 year stint in Her Majesty's Hotels.

[Edward]

And the tube is crimped to accept 2 shots only

[Guest]

Yeah in America they insert a dowell into the magazine tube to limit capacity to 2 shells since in some states it is illegal to hunt wild birds with more than 2 shells in the magazine, but in the Uk because of the law defining a shotgun, proofing houses have to squeeze the magazine chambers so that you physically cannot get more than 2 shells into them, not just put in some temporary replaceent that can be removed.

[cdb]

NO. It is Illegal to modify a shotgun to accept more than 2 cartridges in the magazine and one in the chamber without the firearm licence, unless you facny a 5 year stint in Her Majesty's Hotels.

 

Sorry, I certainly wasn't implying you should do it (and thererfore commit an offence), I just wondered if Mossbergs were the same all over the world, i.e. it was that easy to modify your 500 after you'd obtained your FAC. I'd never heard about the "crimping".

[Guest]

Yeah no Worries CDB, that is what I thought I would have to do to modify my MOssberg once I received the FAC but then I learned that ll magazine tubes were crimped.