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Ozzy Fudd Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) john, as you probly saw i had major issues with my 10/22 for a while, only got it sorted out recently. try different ammo and a different scope, but also check the crown (that was a problem with mine). as for accuracy, i can now get headshots on rabbits at 60-70 yards, also bagged one at 130 yards last week with a chest shot. i know its a different rifle but if your friend gets the right set up this should be possible, cos ill admit im not the best marksman in the world! Edited August 16, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozzy Fudd Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Cheers Babby, I had just thought of the crown as I was logging on great minds and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dogfox Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 if hes using stingers forget it, they are the most unreliable round ive ever used through my mates buck mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Any LR semi or bolt action should group consistantly 1" or tighter at 50 meters(58yds ) all day long if there are no faults .....including the operator. If you've got a black and decker workmate take it to your place of zeroing and lock the rifle down as this will eliminate alot of factors . Try eley or winchester ammo A point to note ! Due to the flatter head on the winnies they would get deformed when being automatically cycled into the breach of my 10/22.The rounder head on the eleys solved that issue so trying other ammo is good advice also . Unless they have improved I would avoid using Remmington in this calibre Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) I have just had a similar problem to this but I don't know if it is related to your friends problem! I use a Winchester 290 (.22 Semin Auto) fitted with a SAK moderator. I always use Winchester Super X Subsonic Hollow Points in 40gr. I have been using the gun with a Tacso 3-9 X 50E scope on it using good quality mounts which were tightly fitted. I bought the scope off e-bay brand new for £29.99 so I suspect that they are "cheap copies" and not the original Tasco Scopes. Up until a short while ago I was quite happy with this set up! Recently I found that I was having to re-zero the rifle every single time I took it out and even then, after zeroing, I found that I would start to miss fairly easy shots quite quickly. This led me to think that the cross hairs were drifting a little so I tried zeroing the rifle and then putting 50 rounds through it at 50 yards. The results were unbelievable! As I went through the 50 shots I could clearly see the POI getting further and further away from the original POI. I have now change the scope for a Hawk 4-16 X 40 and (Using the same mounts) I have zeroed the rifle and tried another 50 shots through it @ 50 yards. The results were that even the last of the 50 shots was within half an inch of the first. If your friends rifle is fitted with one of these "Cheap Tasco Scopes (Possibly a copy)" I would suggest that you have a serious look at them first and try doing what I did. Zero the rifle and scopes then put a good few rounds through it (If you can set the rifle up in a "Work Mate" type of table vice/clamp all the better) and look for signs that the cross hairs are going out of zero. p.s. Anyone want to buy a "Cheap Set of Tasco 3-9 X 50E Scopes?? Edited for spelling! Edited August 17, 2009 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Lads we've seen this all before, and we all seem to learn the hard way (I got taught my lesson with a Bushnell) If you're aiming for tight groups and you want to get the best from your 22 then you need a decent scope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Hi John, I have the Remington 597 .22lr and have no problems with grouping having zero'd the gun at 75 yards. For the record I have tried the following brands of ammo: - Remington (Subs) - Waste of time IMHO, they don't cycle, fliers are a regular occurance, they sound different every shot and had one or two non-fires. CCI (Subs) - Didn't cycle well, too many non-firing, malformed heads, horrible smell and sound each time and just wouldn't group full stop. Eley HP (Subs) - Grouped reasonably well, not particularly tight, but still performed miles better than either of the above, only problem was they didn't cycle properly after firing (Say 3/10) and also the waxoil coating they used clogged up the magazine allowing for misfeeds. Winchester Super X (Subs) - Similar to the Eley HP although cycled better, just not consistently enough.(Say 2/10). Federal (Subs) - Shot well, cycled similarly to Eley and Winchester, but still not consistently enough. Federal HP (HV) - Shoots well, cycles well does what it says on the tin, had rabbits upto 70 yards consistently odd one or two in excess of 100 yards. I've got a Centre point 3-12x44 IR scope (Overkill for the gun, but good piece of glass) on with standard mounts and never had problems with it. Recently checked zero and fired ok. Went out with Funky and potted rabbits (Head shots only) standing and off bipod on the bonnet no problems. I would suggest that it maybe isn't the mounts themselves, but the scope rings not being tight enough for fear of crimping tube. Speaking to Derek Edgar of Edgar brothers, due to the Remi never being designed to shoot subs, cycling can be problematic with all makes of subs regardless. He suggested taking the bolt guide rails out and checking that a they run true (Roll on flat surface and watch for oscillation). Also rub the rails with emery paper to a polished surface. Next take the Rubber bolt stop out and trim off 2-3mm to allow the bolt head to travel back that little bit further. The crown could be a problem, but too be honest, you should be able to check that visually without any hassle. PS to solve issue on the Mag sticking (assuming newer cast metal and not old plastic design, use some 3in1 PTFE spray on the follower and in the follower grooves). Works ok for me to the point that when taking unused rounds out the last three fly out of the mag with ease. Regarding the Tasco scope, check out Funky's Threads regarding scopes and MOA movement, be interested in the result. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bleeh Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) I had a simular problem. I found out that it was loading each bullet too quickly, and scaring the head as it did it. - I'm not sure why this was, (loose action?) but taking it to the smithies got it sorted. Edited August 17, 2009 by Bleeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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