rangey Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 just had the ok for a variation for a 22.250 and was hoping to get a bit of info on recommended barrel,sporter or heavy,stainless or blued,best barrel length etc.i have a howa in 223 and would probably be looking at another howa in 22.250 but would like some opinions on the remmy or tikka, good or bad...any info on the calibre would be good.ive done my home work on the calibre.but would like to hear some opinions good or bad from people who have used them...thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 POSTED IN THE WRONG SECTION,,,,DONT KNOW HOW TO MOVE IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 From what I have seen of 22-250 I no longer rate it as a fox round unless shooting it beyond 200 yards! Below that it is too tough on bullets! Reduce it to 223 velocities and it is better. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) UD. I don't understand what is meant by tough on bullets. With the increased velocity I find that under 200yds the bullet has hardly ever exited. I use 55 nosler bt's. Each to there own, I have 2 and am more than happy with the results. Of course the fox's won't agree Edited July 21, 2015 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) If your going to buy a 22-250, it needs to be a new rifle, I would stay clear of new Remingtons, not what they used to be. Get yourself a Tikka super varmint. Edited July 21, 2015 by reggiegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 UD. I don't understand what is meant by tough on bullets. With the increased velocity I find that under 200yds the bullet has hardly ever exited. I use 55 nosler bt's. Each to there own, I have 2 and am more than happy with the results. Of course the fox's won't agree hi dougy as you have 2 of them ,any advice on barrel weight and length Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 If your going to buy a 22-250, it needs to be a new rifle, I would stay clear of new Remingtons, not what they used to be. Get yourself a Tikka super varmint. yep.would definatly be new..looked at the tikka but can only see them with 20"barrels...not sure if you would lose to much velocity with the short barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) hi dougy as you have 2 of them ,any advice on barrel weight and length He is posh and has re barrelled rifles.What do you want from it, occasional foxing, a normal sporting barrel will be fine, shooting everything legal and range use, than consider heavy barrel. True 20" barrel you will not be much faster than a 223, do they not do a 22" barrel? Sure my lad said they do. He is looking at changing his remington 250 Edited July 21, 2015 by reggiegun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Don't worry too much about loosing velocity on a shorter barrel, it's negligible. You need to think about the weight. I have a sako with a long heavy contour barrel that's around 14lb all on and a tikka m55 that's around 9lb. I've just got in from foxing (blanked ) and I take the tikka if walking. The sako if I can drive round, or if I use it while stationary. Plus I have more confidence taking shots with it to maybe 300+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 main use would be foxing but also like a bit of paper punching,22.250 would be used from truck when lamping and fixed position long range shooting..i will use my 223 for n/v and walk around gun....would a stainless barrel work ok when lamping...ie glare of the barrel..probably leaning more towards a 24" heavy barrel ,but not sure yet....hence post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Dougy, I am not impressed from what I have seen over several years foxing with a friend and his spotter weight 85 Sako. Very position sensitive rifle, gives a good 2" vertical deviation, the gun flips up in other words and is worse on the slower powders. Combined technologies 55grn. And 60grn Sierras want to turn on hair, explosions on surfaces only under 100yds. An old target bullet with a tiny HP and thick jacket zipped through but I would like to try another type of traditional match bullet, my theory being it should at least get reliably under the skin! 40 BT work a bit better flat out but certainly more so at 300. When he throttles it back to 223 performance our issues with the bullets he has tried cease! It was designed as a long range p dog gun which is where it shines.The crow he shot on Sunday at 280yds with a 40bt clearly showed the explosive force coming back at us! Not the other side of the crow! Wish I had took a photo now! I sound very negative I know. Would I have one ? Prob not but if I did I would avoid any explosive type of bullet if shooting fox. The issues we have had over the past several years on fox with his 250 we never had with 22, 22wmr, 22h, 222, 223, 243, 6.5, 270, 30/30 and 308. Sorry but I don't see it as the panacea. U :-( Edited July 22, 2015 by Underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I have a Tikka T3 Lite I haven't the 'history' of many other shooters on here, but: I agree the barrel does flip and you can lose sight of the quarry sometimes, but that is after I have blown a hole in it. I generally use 50g Feds or Hornadies with BT and they work fine. They always turn the inside to jelly. I have smashed upper leg bone on the way in and still dropped the fox on the spot. I have used Privi 55g soft points (which seem to be super accurate in my rifle) but they tend to blow straight through, which I'm not keen on - even with thousands of tons hillside as a backstop, as I question how traumatic poking a hole is versus a veritable explosion in a chest cavity. BTs straight on into a chest has blown a shoulder off, and has completely eviscerated another, both at close range. 'Lite' is a relative term too. Stick your scope, a bi-pod, lamp and sling on it and it isn't light! My only gripe with my T3 is the cheek weld. I've had to fit one of those stock round holder things - with foam slipped underneath, to lift it up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Perhaps he has a bad barrel causing jacket damage that affects expansion behaviour? It's not unknown. As for position sensetivity, thats a pain but usually less noticeable on low recoil calibres.Yes fister, come across that myself too. I have wondered that too. Edited July 22, 2015 by Underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I have a Tikka T3 Lite I haven't the 'history' of many other shooters on here, but: I agree the barrel does flip and you can lose sight of the quarry sometimes, but that is after I have blown a hole in it. I generally use 50g Feds or Hornadies with BT and they work fine. They always turn the inside to jelly. I have smashed upper leg bone on the way in and still dropped the fox on the spot. I have used Privi 55g soft points (which seem to be super accurate in my rifle) but they tend to blow straight through, which I'm not keen on - even with thousands of tons hillside as a backstop, as I question how traumatic poking a hole is versus a veritable explosion in a chest cavity. BTs straight on into a chest has blown a shoulder off, and has completely eviscerated another, both at close range. 'Lite' is a relative term too. Stick your scope, a bi-pod, lamp and sling on it and it isn't light! My only gripe with my T3 is the cheek weld. I've had to fit one of those stock round holder things - with foam slipped underneath, to lift it up a bit. Thanks for that. It gives me hope. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rangey, Dont discard getting an older rifle re-barreled, This would of course go down to what your budget will be. Look into having a 1-9 twist. it will reach out allot further that the normal 1-14 or possibly 1-12 twists as it will be suited to the heavier and longer bullets. A 1-9 will let you use most from 50-70 grain bullets and having seen the accuracy of these at 450yds you certianly would not be disapointed if using them on paper, or vermin. I have just been looking at 2nd hand rifles, on guntrader and Tikka M595 and similar are fetching £350 (I recon you could get cheaper ) A re barrel with a good make barrel plus the work would be around £700 so you are already in Tikka Varmint prices or near as dam it. It certainly needs to be looked at if you want it for long range stuff. Dont worry about a shiny barrel unless you intend on waving it about with a flag on, you could have it bead blasted or cerakote'd the colour of your choice, as long as they have it in that colour of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rangey, Dont discard getting an older rifle re-barreled, This would of course go down to what your budget will be. Look into having a 1-9 twist. it will reach out allot further that the normal 1-14 or possibly 1-12 twists as it will be suited to the heavier and longer bullets. A 1-9 will let you use most from 50-70 grain bullets and having seen the accuracy of these at 450yds you certianly would not be disapointed if using them on paper, or vermin. I have just been looking at 2nd hand rifles, on guntrader and Tikka M595 and similar are fetching £350 (I recon you could get cheaper ) A re barrel with a good make barrel plus the work would be around £700 so you are already in Tikka Varmint prices or near as dam it. It certainly needs to be looked at if you want it for long range stuff. Dont worry about a shiny barrel unless you intend on waving it about with a flag on, you could have it bead blasted or cerakote'd the colour of your choice, as long as they have it in that colour of course. hI Dougy yes ive been looking and toying with the idea of a cheap s/h one and rebarreling.I don't reload at the minute and there doesn't seem much factory ammo available in the heavier bullets.i don't want to be driving all over the country trying to find the heavier ammo...but still open to rebarreling..suggestions on who to use for a rebarrel if I go down that route??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Personal I prefer a heavy long barrel in 22-250 Dougy is right a 1:9 is the way to go especially if you reload. I normally use Remi 700, great canvas to work off, then rebarrel when needed. Currently have a SPS here if it's of interest as my new FEO doesn't agree with me needing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 First decide which bullets and what velocity. Getting say a 1-9 aint going to be wise if you only shoot light varminting bullets say. there is a reason we don't over spin them things. Its not a wise choice for paper punching due to life span though it has recorded some very tidy scores competitively, just don't expect to get many seasons out of a single barrel. It was a cartridge I never really got for many years. Foxing or long range varminting it was only a close run thing with the .243 win able to just better it on drop yet loosing out on wind. The .243 is also all UK deer legal and so a better choice for many users. However its got an ace up its sleeve (its a very vestal thing in the loading room and .243 isnt) capable of running at similar to a fully stacked .22 hornet with 40 grain up bullets, making it longer lasting in the barrel dept and all you really need for edible small game and crows to say 200 yards, plain fun shooting even Foxing on the lamp when ranges much over 200 are rarely ever take able anyhow. Then in the day you can stake out a big field and run some fully stacked loads at close to 4000 fps reaching out in line with your fullest ability. In all fairness though the .223 rem is also well capable of doing the business to say 300 yards and the difference will only ever be the nut behind the butt, to many a 300 yard crow or fox is something of a prayer shot for others a formality. If I was never going to shoot another deer its the gun I should get now due to being able to do all my non .22lr rifle shooting with but one single gun. Beware the man with one gun he likely knows how to use it pretty darn good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 hI Dougy yes ive been looking and toying with the idea of a cheap s/h one and rebarreling.I don't reload at the minute and there doesn't seem much factory ammo available in the heavier bullets.i don't want to be driving all over the country trying to find the heavier ammo...but still open to rebarreling..suggestions on who to use for a rebarrel if I go down that route??? I would keep looking at the idea of a semi custom, jf that's on tbe card's. You have already thought about the reloading bit, and you say "at the minute" so I bet you will be soon lol. If you are intending using it for long range stuff, then you will seriously need to reload to reap the benefits. You could find a remy action for less than 300, so possibly under 1k for a semi custom. Then scope and mod, Oooo its adding up, then reloading stuff, But just think of the hours of shooting, with what should be an extremely accurate rifle. Gunsmith's your area, sorry I can't help out. Up my way, well further up, I have used Steve Kershaw a, d Dave Wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejase Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I had a tikka m595 and it was very accurate but felt very heavy especially with a T8 mod fitted. I now have a T3 lite and there is a noticeable difference in weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 (edited) Kent I'm not getting into any tit for tat post, but rangey has got a variation for a22.250not a 243 or any other calibres. Or i should have said got the OK for one, sorry Edited July 22, 2015 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 What about a 22 Hornet? cant be r d. You try and give genuine advice learnt from actual experience and knowledge to help folk out on specific questions asked by poster's. Then some numt pops up with something completely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 cant be r d. You try and give genuine advice learnt from actual experience and knowledge to help folk out on specific questions asked by poster's. Then some numt pops up with something completely different. Come on I've just got the popcorn maker out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Kent I'm not getting into any tit for tat post, but rangey has got a variation for a 22.250 not a 243 or any other calibres. Or i should have said got the OK for one, sorry perhaps he can read though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 thanks for all the info guys,good job tickets gona be a few weeks as ive got a lot of things to think about now,ie reloading and rebarreling.new,s/h.but looking forward to getting sorted either way.i was always going to get a 22.250 but was advised by feo to put in for 223 for first c/f.12 months later got the 223 opened up and put in for an additional 22.250 and got it...happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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