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Hey all, Was wondering if any of you know if the Umarex Steel Storm is for sale in the UK? I know it is in North America... it's a co2 powered fully auto bb gun which can fire in single shot, or 6 shot burst. It has a smoothbore barrel, and fires at around 420fps. It looks like it would be a good deal of fun for plinking...and it retails for under $100 in North America. However, I cannot find any info online about it being available to the European market. Anyone heard of this? Thanks!

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Lose the read dot sight. The hw45 has high quality open sights on it. Who needs a red dot on a pistol anyway? With my hw45 (.177) I can hit tin cans at 30m+ almost every shot. 1.75 inch groupings at 10m is not bad for someone new to this gun. It takes a little while to learn the right hold. Like others have said, keep a loose grip. The fleshy part of the thumb and third finger should do most of the work in holding it up-the other fingers are just along for the ride, so to speak. With some practice, you should be able to cut an inch off that group in no time. I doubt there's anything wrong with your hw45. What cali is it?

Hi again, I've been wondering about the new Alecto. Although it's a bit dear at £165, the specs seem good, and it's kind of nice looking. 3 fp at 1 stroke, 4.5 at 2, and 5-5.5 at 3 strokes! All in a convenient overlever design and decent quality plastic shell! It's apparently got considerable accuracy as well. Has anyone actually SEEN these yet? Anyone HAVE one? Is it a worthy companion to my beloved HW45? Do you think the seals will last? What do you think? IS it worth the squids?

Hi all, Hope the holidays are going well for all. I was wondering what you guys tend to do with your quarry! A couple of days ago I got a nice woody. Just debreasted him, marinated breasts in olive oil, salt, pepper, spring onions, and garlic for a couple of hours, and fried 'em till medium rare. What do you all do with woodies? Today, I got two nice young greys! After cleaning, I soaked them for half hour in salt water (to draw out blood), then in water with a teaspoon of vinegar (to remove the 'wild' flavour). I then marinated with cayenne pepper, salt, black pepper, and garlic. Then dusted them in flour mixed with more cayenne and the deep fried in sunflower oil for some Southern Fried Squirrel! Although I've killed hundreds of greys before, this is the first time I've eaten them (the ones i've killed have all been rubbish-eating city squirrels-these were in the country). I was quite impressed! Any tips or recipies on how you like to prepare common airgun quarry such as woodies or squirrels? Thanks and Merry Christmas!

There are REALLY only two air pistols I know of which are capable of dispatching game. The HW45 and the BSA 240, and the latter sadly no longer in production. New, the hw45 is quite dear, my local shop is selling them for £250. Used, hw45 goes for 140-160 for good condition in box, occasionally a bit cheaper for lucky folk who are willing to wait around a bit. You can get one for 110-120, it'll be a bit dinged up, but the vermin won't care! I THINK the BSA 240 goes for a similar price in good condition-mint ones often go for more. I'm looking for one at the moment. HW45 doesn't get 6 ft/lbs. In .22 it gets about 5, in .177 it gets 4.5. I've had my hw45 for almost a year now, and I love it more every day. It's a bit chunky, some find it front-heavy, but I don't find it a problem. I've killed gray squirrels at 15 yards with single shots to the boiler room, so at point blank, power certainly won't be an issue. Don't buy an SMK.

darn it I just did this as well with my HW45! (blew the 2nd sensor away) So you just send it back and they fix it?

what brand/model/poundage/draw length/ let off/?

Once again, people can drive a golf ball almost 400 yards. If you think an airgun pellet won't travel well over 500 (at an angle obviously) you're dead wrong. Check out chairgun.

Theres a .177 HW35 for sale on the boards right now for £160 I believe. Get a Weihrauch you will never look back! Solid guns, built to last. A tad heavy, but you don't want a light springer anyway. Avoid SMK, avoid Crosman. WEIHRAUCH!!!!

LOL if you guys think an air rifle pellet going 600-800fps at the muzzle will only travel 80-100m up, you're in for a nasty surprise! A slingshot will shoot well over 100m up-at least 150m. Air rifle projectiles travel much faster. I'd be willing to bet that it would go AT LEAST 300m up. I've heard that at a 45 degree angle, .177 pellets WILL travel over a 1/3 of a mile. The main thing slowing a pellet down is the diabolo shape, but even so it will go a heck of alot further than 100m up! As I said before, a roundball will travel FAR. Anyone live on a deserted highrise? Go up to the 30th floor or so and let your mate take potshots at you with a .177 air rifle @12 ft lbs. If you get hit by one of those, it's gonna HURT.

what cali?

I think 300-500m is about right. I think a domed .177 would go the furthest, surpassed only by a roundball. I think a roundball would go a fair bit furthur, maybe even 700m. What about at a 45 degree angle? Any guesses? I have know idea just wondering.

Don't hollow points have to be moving at least 700-800 fps to reach their full expanding potential?

I have been using H&N silhouettes recently with my .22 hw35. All I can say is they work better than RWS hobby or eley wasps. Haven't tried any others yet with this rifle. Your best bet is to try as many as you can and pick whichever groups the best with your individual gun.

Hi all, Question: How do you mount a cb-625 mk4 to an HW45? I've gathered from google that it's not easy to do but possible nonetheless. Thanks.

what cali?

I think the spring may be failing as the rifle is fairly old and was already so when I got it second hand. It doesn't feel or sound like it's giving 11ft lbs anymore, and shots are beginning to drop 3 or 4 inches regularly at 20 yds. All screws and pins seem tight. Can anyone recommend a) a cheap chronograph and a gunsmith in Edinburgh who could service the rifle? Thanks

Thanks all. Screws all seem to be pretty tight and I don't have a workbench set up right now. I think zapp may have hit the nail on the head. Will report back after shooting some more groups.

Hi all! Thanks for the many responses! I will check the barrel hinge pin (think it's secure but will make sure). The scope seems to be very tight. I don't see a brand name on it anywhere so I suspect it's a cheapo-all it says on it is "model 17 Original Wide Angle 6x40 Fixed Reticule Coated" I will stick with the H&N as they seem to be the most accurate. The AA's are bloody ££ although I'm sure worth the cost. I have a feeling the occasional low shots are just me doing stupid incosistent things with the follow-through but I ought to strip it down anyway (a bit nervous about doing this but apparently the 35 is DEAD easy to work on). It makes kind of a twang when I fire. Thanks all! When you say make sure the scope is level does this mean that the scope must be parallel to the ground?

He said he just wanted a change... I've tried the purple tin of Wasps, RWS hobby, and H&N domed... So far I think the H&N are the most accurate, but I keep getting stray shots. Anyone know how I would go about getting it tuned here in Scotland?

Dear all, I am very frustrated with my hw35. I got it used off of a member of this forum several months ago and have since shot just over 1000 shots with it. I have had inconsistent accuracy pretty much from the get go. At first, I pinned it down to this being my first springer and accuracy would come as I got to know the trigger etc. 1000 shots later, I am getting extremely inconsistent accuracy. I don't know if it's my scope, my gun, or me! At about 15 yds, I'll shoot a few shots into 1/2 or 3/4 inch groups, and then the next few shots might me 2, 3, or even SIX inches away from my POI, MOST often below. I've read everything I could find about springer accuracy and I believe I am doing everything fairly right-I keep my eye the same distance from the scope each shot, I keep a light hold with both hands, allowing the gun to recoil freely. I try to keep my scope on the POI after the shot has been fired. I pull the trigger using a firm, smooth squeeze directly backwards and never to either side. I have tried all three shooting positions, as well as all manner of improvised bench rests (never resting the gun on hard surface, always on skin). I KEEP shooting all over the target. Always the same story-a few accurate shots, a few several inches away from my POI! Shooting and hunting is one of my favourite activities-never done much rifle shooting beyond the odd .22lr belonging to friends. I have a crossbow with which I can put multiple 'arrows in the same whole (splitting arrows unless I aim at seperate places) and a 45 lb recurve bow with which I can get 3-4" groups at 20 yds. But my 'accuracy' with the HW35 is laughable no matter what I do! Is it even POSSIBLE for these guns to be this innacurate or does this HAVE to be the shooter's fault? I thought Weihrauch was renowned for supurb accuracy! I have an HW45 in .177 and I'm getting tighter groups than with the rifle! What am I doing wrong? Does the gun need to be taken apart, cleaned, oiled, and reassembled? This is the only thing I can think of! It shoots with a slight 'twang' which I've read is indicative of a gun which needs tuning. I know the HW35 is about as easy as it gets in terms of DIY assembly and tuning etc, but I have NO confidence whatsoever in my ability to take it apart. I live in Glasgow and Edinburgh (guns stay in Edinburgh). Is there anywhere I can take my gun to here in Scotland to have it serviced? Do you think the frequent shots dropping 4-6" below my POI is indicative of power inconsistency shot to shot? I don't have a chrony (would love to find a cheap one somewhere as I don't have much £). I think the HW45 isn't getting enough velocity either-it seems significantly slower than the HW35 which I think is shooting in the high 500's. The HW45 seems to be in the low 500's which is a bit low for a .177 hw45. THANK YOU ALL for addressing my concerns. I am distraught.

Can the caliber be changed? I really want this gun in .177 and I'd love to get yours if changing cali is a simple as swapping a barrel. Thanks

Wanted: Any high-quality springer in .177, 12 ft lbs, preferably under-lever or side-lever design but will accept a break barrel. Weihrauch HW77(k), 97. I will consider other quality brands such as BSA, Diana, Webley, etc. Only requirements are that it is .177 and shooting near the legal limit. Looking to spend about £200, preferably with scope included. Thanks

Is this an FAC rated rifle? Which caliber is it? Thanks