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Bet you didnt get drawn into argueing tho.

was kinda looking for a working mans explanation, you know one without acronyms.

i will wager not many, they seem to have a balanced deterent.

Then the weak currency is bad if you import more than you sell abroad, how do countries audit other countries before buying bonds {extending credit}.

THANKS QUEST. What would happen if the bank of england just created the money for the government to pay off interest on its debt mountain, does it just weaken the pound against other currencies, aswell as cause inflation..

Caveat emptor. He wont get caught again buying a croc.

You could print the pages off from here. http://www.airgunartisans.com/Crosman%20Index2.htm

Nice that one will stick with you. one of the things i most regret is not keeping a shooting diary.

ha ha. Couldnt sack him, too many Cringingly bad TV momments to come from him yet. If i dont make you a profit sir alan i will pay you back out of my own money. He will be giving sugar business advice by the 3rd show.

Aye he is as manx as jellied eels. His dad is a cockney millionaire i think, one of 40k new manx.

The manxie up first for the chop.

its a best seller dave, wish i had thought about it first, wud keep the clan in beans for years.

I always shot better with a o/u or auto than side by side, even tho i learned to shoot with side by sides, the along the top guns come up better.

Gutting 50 rabbits before school, so my uncle could drop them to the butcher in his dinner hour, and give you a pat on the head as reward. But there again i used to knick his rifle from under hid bed, while he was at work.

Aye and a spoonful of sugar on it, then dipped in a mug of tea. Or rubbing your bread in the frying pan after me mam had just finished frying with it, everything was cooked with lard.

I wIll start with baths as a kid in the belfast sink in the kitchen with the whole family there, cos the bath had 2 or 5 salmon in it, waiting to be sold. No fridges in those days. Come on guys lets hear yours.

Been years since i saw a partridge over here lads. Used to be big clove-es of them in the fields behind my gaff in the stubbles, shot to oblivion, and the introduction of foxes hasnt helped i suppose.

im only a simple country lad, but if they tripled the amount of money in circulation, and payed us all triple, and everything we buy tripled we would be no worse off. But only sitting on a quarter of the debt. I am only being light-hearted ofcourse. Whats the pros and cons of inflation, the hidden ones i mean.

dunno, but it wont be a female horse i know that. females are at a big dis-advantage against males strenghtwise just like ladies adainst men. It isnt so obvious on the flat, its a divide on the sand and its just a healthy gap in N H. but its there to be taken advantage of, as most punters havent a clue what sex the horse they are backing is.

they are different plans teal. All the plans between them only find on average 2 selections a day. look at the side they are unfiltered on the spread sheet and run in race order by time and date. 29/Sep/2010 a/w plan 2 8:50 Kempton KINIGI 12 2nd 7//2 29/Sep/2010 a/w plan 3 8:50 Kempton KINIGI 12 2nd 7//2 PLAN 2 1st last time out, but not in last 2 days Females only PLAN 3 Females only 1st last 2 times out Theres more filters they are just an example why a selection comes up twice. re your comments on the pro gambler. most pros make their money on anomalies, they back multiple selections in markets they think are skewed, and can turn the percentages long term to their advantage, there are not many. as for the figures in your post, you are correct in your sums you have to give the odds of 5/1, its then all about strike rate and longevity. this was the longest run this year 26. 27/Jan/2010 A/w plan 2 4:40 Kempton GLEN LASS 6 3rd 11//10 27/Jan/2010 a/w plan 3 4:40 Kempton GLEN LASS 6 3rd 11//10 27/Jan/2010 A/w plan 2 7:40 Kempton THE GLAMOUR CAT 4 4th 5//2 28/Jan/2010 a/w plan 1 4:20 Southwell THEY ALL LAUGHED 13 3rd 9//2 28/Jan/2010 a/w plan 1 4:55 Kempton DAVIDS MARK 11 3rd 9//2 28/Jan/2010 a/w plan 1 6:25 Kempton BALTIMORE PATRIOT 8 2nd 7//2 28/Jan/2010 A/w plan 2 6:25 Kempton M'LADY ROUSSEUR 8 4th 3//1 28/Jan/2010 a/w plan 1 7:55 Kempton DVINSKY 9 3rd 4//1 29/Jan/2010 N Hunt plan 1 1:20 Doncaster OVERTURN 20 3rd 7//2 29/Jan/2010 a/w plan 1 3:25 Lingfield NAMIR 9 3rd 4//1 30/Jan/2010 A/w plan 2 2:15 Lingfield FREDDIE'S GIRL 5 2nd 3//1 30/Jan/2010 a/w plan 1 3:20 Lingfield RED SOMERSET 6 4th 4//1 30/Jan/2010 N Hunt plan 3 4:10 Uttoxeter PEARL 9 2nd 7//2 01/Feb/2010 A/w plan 2 3:15 Wolverhampton MAGENTA STRAIT 7 6th 5//2 01/Feb/2010 a/w plan 3 3:15 Wolverhampton MAGENTA STRAIT 7 6th 5//2 01/Feb/2010 A/w plan 2 5:50 Wolverhampton CRAZY CHRIS 4 2nd 5//4 02/Feb/2010 A/w plan 2 4:30 Southwell WEDDING DREAM 6 6th 4//1 02/Feb/2010 a/w plan 3 4:30 Southwell WEDDING DREAM 6 6th 4//1 03/Feb/2010 a/w plan 1 12:40 Lingfield SIENA STAR 10 8th 7//2 04/Feb/2010 N Hunt plan 3 2:40 Towcester CORNELIA 7 3rd 3//1 04/Feb/2010 N Hunt plan 3 2:40 Towcester CROUCH END FLYER 7 4th 10//3 04/Feb/2010 a/w plan 3 4:00 Southwell LUJIANA 14 5th 7//4 04/Feb/2010 a/w plan 1 5:20 Wolverhampton MY GACHO 9 8th 9//2 04/Feb/2010 A/w plan 2 8:20 Wolverhampton THROUGH THE FOREST 12 11th 4//1 05/Feb/2010 A/w plan 2 3:30 Lingfield ANJOMARBA 6 3rd 11//4 05/Feb/2010 N Hunt plan 3 4:30 Catterick DESOLAIT 10 6th 5//2 and another of 22 13/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 1 3:05 Sandown PEPE SIMO 23 3rd 7//2 13/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 3 4:25 Ayr WATERCOLOURS 8 2nd 11//4 13/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 3 5:00 Ayr ROSIE ALL OVER 4 2nd 11//4 14/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 1 5:00 Warwick SETTER'S PRINCESS 20 4th 7//4 14/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 2 5:00 Warwick SETTER'S PRINCESS 20 4th 7//4 15/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 3 3:00 Plumpton GOOD FALOUE 6 2nd 4//1 16/Mar/2010 a/w plan 1 5:05 Southwell THEY ALL LAUGHED 11 2nd 9//4 17/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 3 1:45 Huntingdon BABILU 10 4th 7//2 17/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 3 3:35 Huntingdon LADY DE LA VEGA 9 6th 3//1 17/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 1 5:15 Cheltenham SHOT FROM THE HIP 24 20th 3//1 17/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 2 5:30 Huntingdon STATUS SYMBOL 16 4th 13//8 17/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 2 5:30 Huntingdon STETSON 16 5th 3//1 17/Mar/2010 a/w plan 1 8:50 Kempton ORPSIE BOY 10 3rd 9//2 18/Mar/2010 N Hunt plan 1 2:05 Cheltenham ALFIE SHERRIN 24 12th 11//4 18/Mar/2010 a/w plan 3 5:45 Wolverhampton LEWYN 5 2nd 2//1 18/Mar/2010 a/w plan 1 8:45 Wolverhampton JUSTCALLMEHANDSOME 7 2nd 7//2 18/Mar/2010 a/w plan 1 8:45 Wolverhampton FANDANGO BOY 7 7th 11//4 19/Mar/2010 A/w plan 2 3:45 Lingfield LADY KENT 10 7th 3//1 19/Mar/2010 A/w plan 2 5:05 Lingfield MINT WHIP 12 3rd 7//2 19/Mar/2010 A/w plan 2 5:40 Lingfield PASTELLO 10 4th 3//1 19/Mar/2010 A/w plan 2 8:50 Wolverhampton SWORN TIGRESS 12 2nd 8//13 19/Mar/2010 a/w plan 3 8:50 Wolverhampton SWORN TIGRESS 12 2nd 8//13 heres a list of costs. -£320.00 -£320.00 -£295.00 -£295.00 -£144.00 -£144.00 -£144.00 -£144.00 -£390.00 -£390.00 -£200.00 -£200.00 -£228.00 -£228.00 -£440.00 -£440.00 -£537.00 -£537.00 -£245.00 -£245.00 -£350.00 -£350.00 -£383.00 -£383.00 -£430.00 -£430.00 -£360.00 -£360.00 -£183.00 -£183.00 -£200.00 -£200.00 -£380.00 -£380.00 -£255.00 -£255.00 -£380.00 -£380.00 -£197.00 -£197.00 -£402.00 -£402.00 -£64.00 -£64.00 -£450.00 -£450.00 -£460.00 -£460.00 -£188.00 -£188.00 -£300.00 -£300.00 -£540.00 -£540.00 -£245.00 -£245.00 -£430.00 -£430.00 -£340.00 -£340.00 -£151.00 -£151.00 -£400.00 -£400.00 -£250.00 -£250.00 -£272.00 -£272.00 -£430.00 -£430.00 -£340.00 -£340.00 -£390.00 -£390.00 -£225.00 -£225.00 -£250.00 -£250.00 -£257.00 -£257.00 -£265.00 -£265.00 -£174.00 -£174.00 -£480.00 -£480.00 -£275.00 -£275.00 -£424.00 -£424.00 -£493.00 -£493.00 -£417.00 -£417.00 -£330.00 -£330.00 -£265.00 -£265.00 -£182.00 -£182.00 -£323.00 -£323.00 -£191.00 -£191.00 -£320.00 -£320.00 -£331.00 -£331.00 they are all the 81 winners to the backer and losses to me out of 521 lays to win £100 gross and £95 net. eta Ask your brother to drop in.

no a betting exchange. WBX Betfair Betdaq I will gladly introduce you to betting exchanges. One word of warning about betting exchanges is this, there markets are proven to be the most accurate markets on unknown outcomes in the world. They literally are over all markets within 0.4% of 100 accurate. So what that means is even a pin sticker making hundreds of blind bets would break even on average. However you pay commission on any profit made on a market with an exchange of 5% or less depending on total turnover. In practice it means this. you and a m8 have £100 each. you toss a coin for a pound a flip, 4000 flips later you are both just about even on the law of averages. in effect with betfair you are letting them hold the £2, and they return £1.95 to the winner. 4000 tosses and you and your m8 still broke even in amount of toses won. But betfair would have the £200 in commissions. That 5% in the real world is hard to beat. A market on an exchange is always virtually a 100% book. A bookmakers is around 112% to 120%. What that means is for every £112/£120 a bookie takes he pays out £100. Heres a quick way to work out a bookies mark-up, its a pretty accurate way to do it in your head. 2/1 33% 3/1 25% 4/1 20% 4/1 20% 9/1 10% 9/1 10% 118% book all you do to change the price to percentage is add the numbers together, 2/1 is 3, then 3 into 100 is 33%. then 3/1 is 4, then 4 into 100 is 25%, and so forth. any books that add up to around 100% and your getting the proper value, the hgher the over-round the poorer the value, i.e. your offered 4/1 about a 5/1 true chance and will lose long term.

this is a list of the all qualifiers, sticking fully to the rules of each plan since the 25/9. 22 straight lays 25/Sep/2010 N Hunt plan 3 5:05 Market Rasen RUTHENOISE 9 5th 4//1 25/Sep/2010 a/w plan 2 6:35 Wolverhampton PERFECT FRIEND 11 2nd 11//4 25/Sep/2010 a/w plan 2 8:05 Wolverhampton AL SHABABIYA 12 2nd 4//1 26/Sep/2010 flat turf plan 1 3:00 Ascot MAGICALMYSTERYTOUR 9 5th 4//1 28/Sep/2010 N Hunt plan 3 5:45 Sedgefield MISS MOLLY BE RUDE 11 4th 7//2 29/Sep/2010 a/w plan 2 8:50 Kempton KINIGI 12 2nd 7//2 29/Sep/2010 a/w plan 3 8:50 Kempton KINIGI 12 2nd 7//2 30/Sep/2010 flat turf plan 1 5:50 Ayr GEOJIMALI 10 2nd 9//2 01/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 3 3:15 Hexham ROLL OVER ROSE 6 pu 7//2 01/Oct/2010 a/w plan 2 4:05 Lingfield ELSIE'S ORPHAN 9 4th 9//2 01/Oct/2010 a/w plan 2 4:40 Lingfield SHIANDA 11 3rd 2//1 01/Oct/2010 a/w plan 2 9:15 Wolverhampton KRONFUL 10 8th 9//4 02/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 6 2:20 Fontwell KALAMILL 9 2nd 15//8 02/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 3 5:50 Fontwell LANDENSTOWN PEARL 11 2nd 9//2 02/Oct/2010 a/w plan 3 7:00 Wolverhampton SABATINI 10 5th 9//2 02/Oct/2010 a/w plan 2 7:00 Wolverhampton SABATINI 10 5th 9//2 02/Oct/2010 a/w plan 2 8:30 Wolverhampton SNOW MAGIC 8 4th 2//1 03/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 3 2:00 Uttoxeter STRAVITA 7 4th 4//1 03/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 3 2:45 Huntingdon LUCY'S PERFECT 11 2nd 9//2 03/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 6 2:55 Kelso CAPRICORNUS 10 2nd 9//4 03/Oct/2010 N Hunt plan 6 4:55 Kelso FEARLESS FALCON 10 8th 9//4 05/Oct/2010 a/w plan 1 5:20 Southwell REALT NA MARA 12 8th 10//3 That run 22 straight lays came to an end at 2.50 today, when miss overdrive won. The above selections are all based on long term statistical probobality and therefore the punter is taking extremely poor value price. All selections are horses selected to lose at 4/1 9/2 or below, decimal 5 5.5, and layed on a betting exchange. Laying is acting as bookmaker and basically backing the horse not to win when not laying the whole field. If anyone is interested in the selections pre races, just say and i will post the rules for each investment plan. These are long term investment plans that solely rely on long term punter weakness. All plans shown are time proven successful and have returned in excess of 15% roi average. I also publish my selections in one other racing forum, they get alot of views. think of a bet as a commodity. A punter buys a bet. A bookmaker sells the punter a bet. Now they both own a commodity that can either grow or diminish in value. I.e. the price goes down {comes in } the punter now has a bet he can sell on and keep the bit in the middle, i.e. bet placed at 8/1 comes into 5/1. the punter can sell at 5/1 and keep the 3 point free bet, and will get paid 3 times the stake if it wins and e sold for the same stake as he bought. Racng takes on a different complexion now doesn't it.

Costly that tho, or it was in my day, otherwise working men like me, especially left-handers, just had to persevere with straight stocks and as you say usage, i always found english skeet to be a good way of trying as i could always see the shot for a split second, and could tell where i was missing.

Good post and good sense, a shotgun isnt just an investment of money, its an investment of many hours using it as well. A shotgun has to come upto the eye correctlly and handle nicely, otherwise it will bring with it mainly frustration.

If so where ?.