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How much lead comes with experience and that can be gained by smashing a few thousand clays, its all about timing, how long will it take for the shot to reach the bird, how far will the bird have flown in that time. You will build up a mental image of where and when but it takes a good amount of practice.

I will keep an open mind. Man shoots girlfriend in toilet? Rumours aside it does seem a little odd.

You obviously know that Starlings are now a protected species due to massive decline in numbers. BTw they do indeed stink when they are dead, not that I have smelled them when alive.

Welcome, hope you enjoy the banter. Beretta

You never know, might have been a number 2 after a dodgy springbok curry or whatever they use instead of horse. My door would be securely bolted with iPad in hand ready for the long haul.

Still find it all a bitt odd. Wake up in the night having gone to bed with girlfriend. Hear noise in bathroom. Pick up gun before checking girlfriend not in bed. Go into toilet shouting that you have a gun. Think that someone has broken in and is pinching your toilet or needed a quick one before getting onto the family silver. Supposedly blows 4 holes in the toilet door shooting intruder (girlfriend). Would you check to see whether your wife/girlfriend was missing before reaching for the Glock? I've heard some fishing tales in my time, this one is up there with the best of em.

Yep, I think a lesson would be your best bet. Let us know on this thread how you got on?

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Come on Rob, give us the first letter * , Im sure they would love to be your friends and give you some discount for the free advertising

I have ducked a couple of missed birds from other stands once or twice, just adds to the fun of the day. My brother got hit by a whole mini clay last year and went down like a sack of spuds, I was stood there like an idiot shouting PULL to no avail, I thought he had been shot when I looked round and saw blood all over his face . I have to say that it took me the rest of the day to stop laughing about it .

Tracer shells, are we going to war Captain Mainwaring

I read the threads with enthusiasm, thinking there was a new club at Bury. It was only when I noticed Rob Cook posting that he was local to Bury that the penny dropped. Ah well I guess no new venue in the north then. The Friday feeling has put the smile back on my face Cheers

You better believe it!

No **** Sherlock, If you look at my answer it says that it would not take a scientist to work out that Obama would not get in, because he had already served 2 term in office. I was being facetious.

I concur, however drip by drip the laws have come in to stop us having any say whatsoever. I think if there had always been a British equivalent of the NRA things would be different, unfortunately It is illegal in the UK for ministers to take payments in the way they do in the US. The issue here is that the population are ignored, especially when firearms are concerned. Remember the fuel crisis in 2000, Tony Blair said "Our policies will not be dictated by blockades.", and that protest brought the Country to a standstill.

I agree with the fact checking part, I have seen posts on other forums here where assumptions are classed as fact and members posting good helpful information are either shot down or ridiculed. Nice top 10 by the way, G

Not rocket science to say Obama won't get in next time. My statement is FACT, you should read and watch the news. What mental health arrangements, they dont have any unless you are wealthy, that's why loopy grandpa sits on the veranda cuddling his sawn off. I did not mention assault weapons, I just stated that the US use the 2nd to justify gun ownership and that the UK built laws on top of the Bill of Rights, some more dubious than others. The NRA advise is to uphold every letter of the Second Amendment. The President cannot pass Laws. UK has strong gun laws. Don't argue against Fact, come up with some ideas as to how the US can move forward, then sit back and realise that with the current mind set they cannot. Banning Assault weapons is like hitting an elephant with a fly-swat, the problem is way bigger than assault weapons.

I shot at Kelbrook on Tuesday afternoon, a bit blustery which made the birds even more interesting. It is a nice ground with a good amount of natural tree cover which gives it a very natural feel. Pay attention to Gordons comment re shooting other birds than your own, it can be a little embarrassing. PM me if you ever fancy joining up for a round or two, the members discount on clays helps.

It is not as easy as Obama bringing in change, his hands are tied by the House of Representatives or the Senate passing any firearms restrictions. The big issue with America is that they still live by the Constitution:- The Second Amendment guarantees the right of citizens to keep their own weapons apart from state-run arsenals. In Britain we have a Bill of Rights, the English Bill of Rights 1689 states "Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence". The difference here is that we have allowed tighter controls on firearms as a result of allowing the Government pass whatever laws they have wanted. UK gun control is not a recent thing, look back to the early 20th Century. The government, fearful of a workers rebellion, pushed through the Firearms Act of 1920. The government falsely told the public that gun crimes were rapidly increasing, and hid the law’s true motive (political control) from the public, presenting the law as a mere anti-crime measure. The issue with America is that a lot of the population who are disgusted by the wave of school massacres want tighter controls, however, the men and women in government who are being paid by the NRA etc will not pass the laws because of the outdated 1787 constitution (that is what they are being told to give as the reason for resisting change).

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LOL. Good accurate technical evaluation . Even though I do own a Beretta myself, these are supposedly ladies guns eh Shaun . Steers & Queers........... light the touch paper and stand well back.

Beretta for me, although I do like brownings. It is purely a personal thing, I like the longer forcing cones on the Beretta.

Got mine start to finish in 6 weeks Send application, you will get a call from the FEO to arrange interview and to check security, get your safe installed, have your interview (they are usually friendly enough), wait for the brown envelope to drop on the door mat. You should get a call from the FEO in about 2 - 3 weeks G

Enjoy the sport, enjoy the banter. Hope you don't have to wait too long G

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