TK421

Another question that may be asked by the FEO or an area for inspection would be is the property detached? If not are the loft spaces adjoining other properties?

I agree 100%, which is why I said it’s best to ask the FEO. Ive heard of some that will state they want it secured to solid brick work, mine for instance literally opened the door and swung on it, and he was a big lad. Luckily I already knew he was likely to do this, the cabinet had 8 x huge mechanical fixings into the wall and solid brick. others I’ve heard of have had the cabinet free standing as they haven’t yet had time to fix it and the FEO said fine now get the kettle on and where are the biscuits lol. the point is they’re all different (shouldn’t be), they’re like building regs, you can argue with them as much as you like, but how badly do you want your house built (licence )

Best have a look at the home office guidelines on mounting the safe mate. Also mention what you’re thinking to your FEO. My understanding (or it’s better) is it needs to mounted into solid brickwork, or chemically fixed if into block? Also consider load bearing etc..

Looks like the guys sold thousands of them. Feedback looks good as well. my advice always buy one bigger than you need. A 3 gun safe is comfortable for 1 gun. If that’s all you’ll ever need go for that size otherwise go for a 5 gun minimum I’d say. where and how you mount the safe are almost as important as the quality of the safe as are the locks. I went brattonsound, but know many that went the eBay route (there’s another black and red one that’s good) I’d also upgrade the mounting bolts. Good luck 🤞

Brattonsound sentinel plus here also, but to be fair to the other one, it’s a lot cheaper, and still weighs in at 40kg. My mate has the twin lock version and it’s been fine for him. As long as it well built and secure why not? Plus it’s go faster black and red 🚗

Not even in my head does that man math add up 🤔

Shooters have been complaining about price increases since they started increasing prices 😉 the increases we’ve seen since 2020 have outpaced all other increases by some considerable margin. With lead currently at a relative low, there’s genuinely no need to squeeze the industry any more than it’s already being squeezed. the only ones who will ultimately suffer are the clubs and grounds when foot fall drops. have a look at the profits last year for Gamebore and Hull, they’re far from on the bones of their *****.

Another 6+% price increase inbound guys ***.

Oh yes, caution is needed. Only on the metal bits. then there are those that don’t even clean their guns period. I’ve always been a fan of the Napier VP90 kit. Can always get it at a reasonable price. The gun cleaner also has good pressure in the 750ml can to give everything a good blast. For the cost and how long they last, especially when compared to the rest of the ‘other’ shooting costs, they almost pale into insignificance really. to each his own and all part of the making of the rich tapestry of life.

It’s pretty much the same thing tbf, except branded for guns with a ‘made in Germany’ price tag. In all fairness it lasts for ages, isn’t to greasy either and doesn’t stink to high heaven, so Happy to have a bottle kicking about. it also depends on the gun you’re using it on and what value you put on that gun. My main guns chamber and barrels aren’t chrome lined so a little extra cars is needed especially when and after shooting in a downpour, which is common in the UK. My other guns need not as much attention. I always have some VP90 products and use sachets in the safe. Horses for courses. you can of course use any old mineral oil, or whatever takes your fancy.

I mainly use it after a wet shoot, spray quick wipe down, another spray then into a dry sling in the car ready for clean down once home. Then a final light wipe over before going into the safe, that way I already have a protective coating before my next shoot.

I use it and find it fit for purpose. Smell isn’t too bad either. Is it any better than VP90? No idea. But it works well for what it’s designed to doing, military spec as well so safe on rifles etc. Isn’t cheap though.

I found sealskinz also very good especially in the cold and wet.

Macwets should be called macgrips.

Or a K80 lot more money for the gun. back to the OPs original question, I’d personally go with the Gold E if it’s in good order and you’re looking at shooting predominantly clays. Both capable guns but the Gold E is a clay muncher, well designed and solid reliability. Shoot them both and see what fits best for you and your discipline.

As mentioned now shooting out of Scotland via CPSA. Loophole no doubt.

100% mate but sadly to be expected.

Not wanting to bleed the same issues into this thread but very questionable regarding the ‘respected’ statement. I’m sure in certain circles that would be true, but there are many reasons and opinions outside of those that ‘know’ that would disagree. I see he’s now shooting out of Scotland on his newly acquired CPSA account for some reason 🤔

Please don’t judge, I’m a member of other clay shooting related FB groups and forums, obviously PW is my favourite. ive been thinking about posting this for a while now, I came across a post in said ‘other’ forum from 2019 (sadly at least one from that original post is no longer with us and was a credit to both forums over the many years and a nice chap he was also) regarding gun fit, that got bumped in 2023 and jumped on by a particular UK coach, don’t want to use actual names so for arguments sake let’s just call him ‘the eraser’ . Over 11 pages of posts the thread basically turned into nothing more than a swinging of ones tadger, and not even a good read tbf, with his usual entourage jumping in to defend his comments etc.. I’m cool with people having differing opinions, that’s life, but there’s a new way of thinking that seems to becoming ever so more common and that is there can be only one opinion, no dialogue or middle ground. It genuinely boils my ****. For the most part, and I stand by this next statement, the shooting fraternity are some of if not the most accommodating bunch of people you will ever meet. True gents, law abiding, and of course full of banter, but all of this exists in the real world, out in the fields, on the range at the club. Step into the digital world of social media and all that turns to **** for some reason, all the above is either forgotten, lost or simply ignored, but why, I know the answer, it more often than not boils down to a fundamental lack of understanding or ignorance on how the online digital world works and more importantly how it should be used. Further point, I’m not due my renewal yet, but speaking to a mate who’s just been through it it appears that there is now a further request for details on your social media profile and footprint, of which I have no issue providing, but this now kind of makes sense that they would show an interest in this area and for obvious reasons especially when you consider the above mentioned thread and posts. I just wish people would be more reasonable and accommodating of others opinions online as much as they would in the real, I mean a new forum could be started talking about the trials and tribulations of ‘the eraser’ ***, and I know there have been a fair few posts about that. Anyway, there’s a lot more to it than what’s mentioned above, the lack of respect shown speaks volumes about one’s character, just throwing this out there into the ether in hope that it reminds a few that behind every post is some bloke, yes a BLOKE, who more than likely loves this sport/hobby and probably isn’t a bad bloke either. Peace and love (not sure if this is the right section to post in, if not Admins please move)

No idea mate, but your comment was directed at me hence my reply. I’ve used VP90 sachets for a good few years without issue tbf, but I’ve now added a 1kg bag version from Amazon which should last ages and can be recharged in the microwave then reused so zero reoccurring costs which is nice. Also noticed the VP90’s do drop a bit of dust. Small issue but there non the less.

the good stuff? No issue spending money on anything that’s worth buying. Not a big fan on throwing stuff in the bin annually when there are equally priced products that do the same and will last for years regardless of what my guns cost. Just common sense. Each to his own.

Never had any issues with VP90 sachets, just the cost. Expensive for what they are, hence looking for other alternatives.

😂 absolutely

One of these. Cheaper than the VP90’s lasts longer and can be recharged