Fellside

There might have been millions more dead birds if they were any good…!! I don’t usually mind most cartridges - within reason - but these were unusual shall we say…..?

I know that some people will swear by the Eley Grand Prix. Each to their own. However, I spent my time swearing AT them….! I tried a box on pigeons during the summer and found them to be awful. I don’t usually mind what velocity cartridges have - within reason. However these were so slow that I had to give extra lead. I’ve never experienced that before. They didn’t even sound very loud - no umph. I got the impression I may as well have been chucking a hand full of pellets at the pigeons. The next day I went back to my usual Hull cartridge and they worked as a cartridge should. Instant kills and very smooth. P.S I would recommend other Eley cart’s, just not a big fan of the Grand Prix.

This is basically a service failure and needs to be addressed by the commissioners……..urgently. What this must be doing to the local gun trade?!

Mine is similar but must be an earlier type - just folds flat. It fits inside my game bag. Very easy to carry all the same.

I would say the above comments are entirely valid re 30” sporter - if mostly clay shooting. Can also recommend Miroku in terms of quality. Extremely well made for the money. They have made various models with different stock dimensions, so see what fits best. At the end of the day, if it doesn’t fit you’ll be wasting cartridges. BTW sporters make excellent hide guns….. if that’s relevant for you (?).

The truth is: there is no right or wrong. We all have different eye sight characteristics. Whatever works, as they say, just keep doing it. Personally (for what it’s worth?) I find bigger sporting type beads show up in my peripheral vision better - the target of course being in primary focus. Those fibre optic glow things for me are however distracting, as observed above. If some people find it suits them to remove the bead, or even shoot with ribless guns, it may work for them, so why not. I would say however, these above factors are only a marginal advantage if the gun fits and is mounted consistently.

If you buy the correct woodwork - per 686 model - it won’t need any fitting work. They slot straight on - mass produced to do so. 12 years isn’t an old gun, so there should be plenty of life left in the metalwork. That’s the sensible (£) option anyway. However, the temptation of a new shiny gun……..! That’s difficult to resist for any of us. Perhaps you don’t want ‘sensible’……🙂

I don’t have that specific model. All I can offer you is feedback on the ATA SP20 which I bought for my teenage son to use. It appears well made and is very pleasant to shoot with - no complaints.

Yes definitely 👍.

Sorry for the late reply. Mine is a Yildiz. Mind you, I haven’t tried the Hull Pro 410 cartridges yet - just those I mentioned.

The tolerances on 410s are very slight and each will have its own minute differences. I’m just wondering if it could be down to basic cartridge/gun incompatibility. My 410 doesn’t get on very well with Gamebore for example, but functions perfectly well with Eley and Hull.

I use these 410 Hull High Pheasant cart’s and haven’t had any problems. In fact they work brilliantly. I wonder if there is some other factor at play….? P.S Just noticed they aren’t the High Pheasant type - they appear to be the newly launched Pro 410. My mistake.

Yes could well be a little bigger than 7 1/2. I use 12 bore 7s (Italian 7 1/2 trap loads) for a lot of my decoying - and they are brilliant.

Ha ha 😂. I ned to gow to spick savers!

Not sure I would ever claim to have got the hang of it entirely (?!), but I do my best. I find them to work well with average birds - in other words if they’re decoying well. As mentioned, doubtful re the tangier stuff. There are circa 300 pellets in the 21 gram 71/2, so plenty of shot. That’s if Hull are loading UK sizes. Who knows what the actual size might be. These cart’s were pressed in to service to give min’ recoil for a child I was teaching and I ended up using the remaining boxes. Pleasantly surprised at what they could do within sensible ranges. P.S I have been less impressed with other 7 1/2 car’s for pigeoning in the past. I think with pellets this size, they need to be really travelling to have the necessary impact. These Pro 20s seemed quick to me. Perhaps that helped.