dieseldogg Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) So anyway after a couple of ph calls to our dearly beloved Firearms dept at Lisnasharragh Where I was fobbed off/ sold a load of bull about my applic ( as in given quite different/contradictory information to what my local firearms officer had told me) I finally in disgust phoned my firearms officer yesterday Yes she had got a referral from dem leprehauns at Lishnasharragh Wanting to know why I was looking for a second .22 for Virmin control / sporting use When I had one already??? But says I my origional/existing .22 is for TARGET use only, per the detail on my FAC, and unsuitable for any other use Quite right you are too she says I will get back to them to that effect Ps Variation made in mid June & it will be a month or two yet Edited September 29, 2009 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 My last one took seven months. My mate has been waiting over a year on a variation. Get BASC involved if your a member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) oh my, thats a surprise, it almost seems as if the firearms department havnt a clue what theyre doing... :blink: Edited September 29, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Shock and horror... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 my last varation took 6/7mths :blink: just sent away for a .22 hornet so proably be next year before i get it is this a sign the psni are trying to cut back on legally held weapons by trying to refuse the 2nd .22 :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 No it is apparently merely symptomatic of the firearms staff being more knowledgable about & inmterested in Jimmy Choo shoes than actual GUNS. Either that or they only employ illiterates/severe dyslexslicks( since they were apparently unable to even read the conditions in my origional FAC ) Hmmm jat maybe I should apply for a start there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballymac Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hi dieseldog could you not have taken one off and put one on, then apply to get the other back, I done this with a new shotgun I was buying, plus got my cartridge allowance increased and renewed by licence at the same time all done within six weeks, even received a phone call from the nice people at Lisnasharragh, although I do believe the civil service have taken more of the admin work since that so you are going to have to wait another few years.... sorry weeeeeeks good luck with it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Deeply disappointed..read the thread title and thought you were applying to have leprechaun added to your licence, just wondered whether you needed a .223 or would a .22rf do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 dont you realise leprechauns are counted as general vermin, and as such can be taken with any suitable firearm (or even a big stick) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Actually what I did NOT realize was that one could get Jimmy Choo shoe wearing FEMALE leprehauns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Actually what I did NOT realize was that one could get Jimmy Choo shoe wearing FEMALE leprehauns in the firearms dept? explains quite alot doesnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the black mire Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 whats happening in this countryis crazy would it happen in mainland uk i think not . lisnasharragh seems to be a law onto themselves. why some variations take 3 weeks and some take 12 months needs answered.myself waited 7 months for a one off one on after numerous phone calls to lisnasharragh and being told my appication was upstairs awaiting grant i contacted my local mla within 2 weeks i received my fac . anybody waiting more than 8 weeks should contact there local mla or mp . everybody needs to do this. and hopefully our firearms department will return to normal good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 can anyone give an actual answer as to why theyve got this bad again? a couple of years back it took them 14 weeks to do a simple swap between one 22lr for another for me, after that they seemed to have bucked up their ideas (i know a guy who was granted a licence for a glock 17 before the gun was even in the country), now it seems theyre back to their old ways. i heard it was something to do with a new guy that took over, but you never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the black mire Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 you see in my opinion since firearms licesing changed to civilvilan support staff around 2004 things have never been really that great. i think there is a few reasons for this. 1 a total lack of understanding ie my local feo has been in the job for around 3 years now in which time she has met quite a few rf dealers who all have assisted her in her duty by way of information on different calibers types of firearms and ammo ect. yet a rfd informed myself recently that the feo asked him for assitance she wanted himself to id a weapon which she believed to be a .22 air rifle. it turned out to be a .223 caliber bolt action rifle. to his shock she then asked was there much difference in the 2 since both were of .22 caliber. 2 the staff in lisnasharragh have no interest whatsoever in whether a regrant variation ect takes 14 days or 14 months . is it really any wonder things are so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 1st time applicatns are meant to be granted within 12 weeks ive a mate who has now been waiting 17weeks , i know 1 lad who works in the lisnasharragh office and he is a shooting man and comes from a shooting family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 12 weeks?! mine took 9 months, and that was with the feo trying to push it through to get the guns out of the station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I believe there was some reference to a .17 Reminton in respect of my .17 HMR application Well , hey its the same caliber Aint it PS Der MLA sounds to be the way to go Since I cannot figgure which questions to ask under FoI Anticipating a "Tony" type weasel non-answer reply Perhaps we could start a concerted campaign under FoI though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 was reading on another forum yesterday a lad from londonderry sent away to get a .222 rifle added on , he sent it away on the 3rd of jan. and he is still waiting thats nearly coming up to 11months its a disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 was reading on another forum yesterday a lad from londonderry sent away to get a .222 rifle added on , he sent it away on the 3rd of jan. and he is still waiting thats nearly coming up to 11months its a disgrace They're mental altogether. There's probably only one (untrained) person manning the whole office... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 (edited) Stuff it I am currently composing a letter to my MLA It is however, taking some little time to eliminate the "rant" (as I wish to, at least, appear reasonable) I am also putting in an FOI request Reason I phoned yesterday to enquire very civilly, yet again as to the progress "we are waiting for the Serial Nos Sir" I was first told, they having brought my details up on the screen Thats strange, I replied, seeing as my RFD Faxxed them to you the same day he received your letter, dated 7th Oct, I know this as I phoned him that evening. Immediately changed tack, "its being dealt with now Sir" whatever that means when translated from Lishnasharragh speak Really I dont care what pile of pooh I stir up That shower need redding up I commented to the wife that it was always a classic "bored Civil servant" response Not that of someone under pressure I have worked in local Government long enough to discern the difference Back to work M PS More than one person, as far as I am aware I have not spoken to the same person twice Not that they volunteer names ( or even a work number if security is a concern) or anything Edited October 22, 2009 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 the wifes cousin recived his FAC yesterday he was a 1st time apllicant took 16 weeks , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Faster than my variation then Sniff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 well the letter to my MLA is typed up I will hand deliver tomorrow I have also put in a freedom of information request Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfly36 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 try 12 months, thats how long i waited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 trust me bypass your mla and go straight to your mp. once a letter with a portcullis hits lisnasharragh their attitudes change.i had an apology from the head honcho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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