Bleeh Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) Let's say I have a SGC and shotguns, and I was going to live in Northen Ireland. Does anyone know if I would have to re-apply to a FAC with the shotguns included while in N.I, or could I hold them on a SGC while this got sorted, even though I was in Northen ireland?. Also, what are the Handgun laws in Northen Ireland - if to be used for dispatch/pest control? Edited October 6, 2009 by Bleeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 youd probly have to reapply, as we dont have sgc's, all on an fac - and then youre gonna be faced with the lovely little experience of trying to justify the reasons for owning all of your guns to the cops if you were moving id advise you to get in touch with the feo of the area youre moving into, dont bother calling lisnasharragh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 That's good advise from Babby. Get ready for the question of why do you have more than one 12g or .22! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 That's good advise from Babby. Get ready for the question of why do you have more than one 12g or .22! and believe me, "because i want them" does not work with the psni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 and believe me, "because i want them" does not work with the psni Nor does one is pretty and I need another I can knock about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) Nor does one is pretty and I need another I can knock about... however one shotgun for clays and one for pest contol can be used, and you can probly squeeze in a synthetic stocked one for wildfowling too sorry bleeh just saw about handguns. simple answer - i dont know. most people i know with handguns have got them through a gun club to be used on the club ranges, the only time ive seen despatch/pest control use is if vermin show up at the house in the middle of the night wearing balaclava's... but, as with everything else over here, i suppose youd have to have a very very very good reason for it Edited October 6, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) I have 3 shotguns and a rimfire rifle, an over and under for clays, a 12g auto for wildfowling and a 20g for game, never had any problems until recently when i applied for a .222 centrfire, it seems they are tightening up on rifles in my neck of the woods as i know a guy shooting a .223 who i wouldn't give a cap gun!! but he got his 3 years ago when they seemed a bit more lenient, also be prepared for long wait for your cert, they were and still are a nightmare in issuing licenses!! Edited October 6, 2009 by GW80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm goin doin the DSC and getting SACS membership to see if it pleases them any, I only want one more rifle and possibly a SA 12g and then that'll be me happy-ish But there's no doubt they aren't handing them out like across the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Try reading Sporting Gun Letters on what is going on South of the Border. Nine page form and 80E every 3 years per gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie mac Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 have a look through this http://www.psni.police.uk/index/advice-and...on/firearms.htm it might help you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutey Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 All the above are very true and babby is quite correct about the hand gun, you will need to join a pistol club if you wish to hold a handgun. Not sure if it has been mentioned or what the rules are on the mainland, but if you want to own a shotgun for hunting you will also have to get, I think it is now 2 written permissions from land owners to shoot on their lands. Also you will require 2 referees to confirm that you are fully compus mentus and of sound body and mind to hold a FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 just need the 1 farmer to sign the form to shoot heard that it was 2 but its still just the 1 i mind years ago it used to be 3 farmers you needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) As I understand it, re shooting over farmland/ Ni Shotguns on a FAC (i) It used to be the case that a farmer could give a reasonably unlimited nos of persons written permission to shoot over his lands, for sporting use & virmin control purposes. As I furthur understand it, of recent times (and this was quoted to me ) A farmer was refused a rifle or shotgun, BECAUSE Sir.......wait for it............ there are "x" no of other people with your permission controlling vermin for you. Whether this is true or not? and it does not really make sense if one has sheep subject to dog worrying I would add that we used to be troubled with young men from the nearby village going up the moss ( our lands) "to kill something" whilst our children were playing up there. Hmmmm So perhaps it was a basically sound idea. But I did also understand that if one was a member of a bono fide club shooting the discipline etc One could get virtually anything but perhaps the pendulum has started to swing back( now that I have applied for a variation) Sodomy Edited October 7, 2009 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Apparently FEO's have been told to tighten up on the approving of centre fire rifles as too many have been issued over the last three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Sodomy again An there was me mooning over an Anshutz in .223 For my 60th, ye ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Apparently FEO's have been told to tighten up on the approving of centre fire rifles as too many have been issued over the last three years. ah for **** sake, im still saving up for one Sodomy againAn there was me mooning over an Anshutz in .223 For my 60th, ye ken. i was gonna get one for my 26th ah well. if they **** meoff ill join katya's bro's hunting club in latvia, then they wont be able to refuse me a .308 for wild boar, and the odd fox over here, just to keep my eye in of course... bein serious for a mo, i did run into the problem lately of farmers having too many people signed up. one of my farmers refused to sign permission for me to have a .223 on his land, as he had signed permissions for 3 other people in the last month - two of them first time holders. when i asked him how many of them are daft enough to be sitting in his barns at 6am on a november morning waiting for the crows that are costing him a fortune in cattle meal he didnt reply, think i wont bother going back there for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 aye i know of a farmer who was told to sign no more forms for people applying for shotguns/rifles the psni told him that nearly all the shooting men from the near by local town had his farm down as their land to shoot on and it was to many people for his farm so said refuse them from now on, my local gundealer told me that the psni are clamping down on the rifles now, i sent away for the .22 hornet last month i rang my FEO and said i heard they are clamping down on rifles and know a couple of people refused .222 rifles she said they wherent clamping down and the reason most are being refused is that the land isnt suitable, she said to me if i apply for the hornet and show a need for it ie foxes and the land is suitable then there was no reason to be refused it, so hopefuly she is correct and didnt fob me off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 well fingers crossed. all the land i have (that i can get signed) should be suitable, but some of it has another .223 signed up. recently the feo gave me the usual "proving the need/too many guns signed up etc" speech, to which i replied "so one man with a rifle can be out every night of the week??". last two times i spoke to him i got the feeling of being fobbed off (when i rang looking a rifle for boar he told me id be safer just buying one in latvia!), so ill see what happens in the new year when i get a bit of cash saved up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 was there not a time a few yeras back that if a farmer owned a .22 rifle then he wasnt allowed to sign a permission form for anyone else who wanted to apply for a .22 , dont know if that was true or not but i heard that a good number of years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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