windrush Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 "That's a very seductive trap you've laid Mr Hunter, and I'm just a semi-tame research bear - it's not my fault that these humans have befriended me. You did see my radio-collar and pink ribbons from 25m, didn't you? No matter, it's day 1 of the hunting season after all, so fair's fair". So, forget the fact it's a cuddly bear, would you knowingly shoot any research animal? (Answers please, got back from the rugby club last evening to spend some quality time with my very many daughters and ended up watching a program about black bears. Daughters are now in uproar asking whether it's fair to shoot a research animal. Not in my view, I think this clearly goes against the spirit and the laws of the game.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 No, but I did shoot a ringed Teal,once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) Panda Bears? That's a big yes from me. Edited November 1, 2009 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windrush Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 No, but I did shoot a ringed Teal,once. It's not likely you saw the ring from a distance, pardon granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yes. they are fair game. If it is a radio collared animal, so long as you didn't use a radio to track it then fine. It is any other game animal that you've hunted of its species. The research is looking to know what happens to animals and where. They now have a data point. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 No, but I did shoot a ringed Teal,once. :good: :blink: :blink: Essex lad was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldous Huxley Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yes. they are fair game. If it is a radio collared animal, so long as you didn't use a radio to track it then fine. It is any other game animal that you've hunted of its species. The research is looking to know what happens to animals and where. They now have a data point. Thanks, Rick I disagree here. If the bear was a pest or an especially dangerous animal due to its lack of fear of humans, then kill it by all means, however I feel there are probably plenty of other fish BEARS in the sea WOOD to go after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Is there a refund if you take the collar back? If it is accurate data that the researchers want then the bear, if in season, should be shot. Otherwise the data recovered will be meaningless, because if it was any other bear, sans collar, it would have been shot anyway. Just like Cranfields teal and my ringed widgeon both were shot and the rings (or in the case of the bear, collar) sent to the BTO (wildlfe fisheries and game). ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windrush Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Just like Cranfields teal and my ringed widgeon both were shot and the rings (or in the case of the bear, collar) sent to the BTO (wildlfe fisheries and game). In the case of the widgeon and the teal, presumably the hunter was not aware of the rings at the point the shots were taken, so I don't think anyone would have issue with this. What I'm distinctly uncomfortable with is a clearly identifiable research animal being bated and shot on day one of a six week season. I don't buy the argument that it's a valid datapoint either, unless of course, it's the behaviour of the hunters that's being studied. Legal it may be, but fair game? Not in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I suppose the research bears are easy to identify at range by their clip boards and happy demeanor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 i watched the programme and thought it was out of order shooting the bears, they were not aggressive or been a pest and there are over 15,000 other bears the hunters could have shot. the researchers put up signs asking all hunter not to shoot the bears with collars as they are research bears they even put brightly coloured ribbons on them leading up to season so they could be easily identified, yet the rednecks shot them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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