Highlander Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Advice to all those who post on here about farmers and their (the postees not the farmers) problems. I look after my permissions for pigeon shooting and keep many farmers happy by rabbiting. Out last night and bump into a bunch of lads (and a mouthy Mary) shotgunning rabbits (at midnight) They were pretty ****** off at me being there and made a bit of a thing about it. I had no idea if they had the permission as they claimed and knew the farmers name or not so had to leave it (farmer would not have appreciated a call at that time of night especially now when he'd probably only just got to bed). I, as always, had made a point of telephoning farmer the day before to let him know I'd be about (he didn't mention anything about anyone else). Telephoned this morning to check with him and ... a) he had no idea who they were. last time he gave anyone permission to shoot his land was 3-4 years back and guy never let him know when he'd be about and rabbits never got shot anyway. Hasn't seen him since. c)only person with permission is me and would I see off anyone I find on the farm who cannot provide written permission such as I have. (don't know about that bit as 4 armed guys can be a bit daunting but plod might certainly help with that even at midnight, they seem to like a bit of adventure from time to time, breaks the monotony of chasing us poor motorists ). d) oh and by the way...family thinks you're doing a great job, keep it up. Moral...do the right thing and it'll pay dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 first thing i ask landowner, farmer, is anyone else shooting on here. if yes i get names.if not anyone i catch is sent packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 We had trouble with Poachers on the land i shoot on i was out with John and we saw a Guy with his dog lamping. We pulled him and he was very twitchy so i passed MY gun to my brother in law before i went to talk to this guy face to face. After 10 mins or so he decided it was in HIS best interest to leave as i told him I had permission and was told by the farmer there was no one else and he had a poaching prob. Confronted with this and the option of ME ringing the police and having him nicked he took off. Of course as soon as he was out or reach he started the only too familiar spouting off The CRAZY thing is IF he asked the Farmer he would MOST likely have got permission to hunt ANYWAY. The guy is a GEM and would prob be very appreciative of someone else to get ridd of his rabbit problem. Now the farmer has asked IF we find anyone poaching in future we are to Stop them and confiscate their weapons AND or ring the police. I am unsure about the confiscation as it may be looked upon as theft but as for ringing the Cops i have NO trouble in doing that. Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Lord Geordie I wouldn't go confiscating anyones(shall we use the word) hunting equipment. I think this could potentially lead you into a lot of serious trouble don't you ? Jonno 357 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I think it is dangerous to confiscate equipment yourself, they will then have it very much in for you, as well as the dodgy legal aspect. IMO would lead straight to a fight, depends who it's against and who you are I think, if it's a gun then it could very quickly escalate to something really really nasty. Better to ring the police, with a bit of luck you'll have a decent police officer who operates your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Depending on the situation you could also get his picture on a camera phone. This may or may not work (largely depending on if you have a camera phone ) but might be enough to discourage him showing his face again. Just an idea, but might trigger off a better one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 (edited) one piece of land which is poached quite often by any number of people (big bit of land unfortuantly, regually frequented by, how shal i put it, the traveling types) anyway, when we catch people on the land, which we do alot, its a simple, why are you here, you dont have permission, 'oh the famrer gave us permission blah blah blah', we say 'the farmer cant give you permission he dosent own the sporting rights at this time, he must contact the syndicate owner', they say well you just do the game we do the vermin, we say something along the lines of, 'we shoot it all as we own the rights to everything' this conversation normal gets more and more desperate its normally a bit of a laugh listening to who they claim to be all kinds of people, (dead uncles and the like) but the finishing line is, 'i will be coming back in 1 hour, if your here then the police will be called here to respond to an armedtrespas problem, its your choice' so far its always sorted the poachers, but unfortuantly there is an endless line of them with their amazingly poor excuses to throw at us, its quite common to throw someone off everytime we go there Edited August 21, 2005 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Don't INTEND to confiscate weapons as the likely hood is they will be illegal anyway. Just what i need a FAC charge on me head . NAH as i said i will have no trouble ringing the Police. The thing to remember is poachers don't give a stuff about the law OR the land and can really stuff it up for you or me by trying to shoot the local syndicates pheasants etc. If they start to find dead pheasants with airgun wounds then i guess ALL airgun users will be suspect and as such my rights to shoot revoked as a precaution. Thats why i have no qualms ringing the police and getting these nerds nicked. The more i am seen to help out the Farmer and the Local syndicates the more possibility of a few good words will be spread about me and thus may help secure more land in future. Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Dunganick, your post made me smile. It reminded me of a time years ago when I was shooting on a large farm in sussex, when my buddy and I encountered a group of, ahem, "caravan enthusiasts", who were working lurchers on land they definatley didnt have permission to be on. When we challenged them, they clearly thought we were also poachers, because one tried to claim he was the farmer. His expression was priceless when my buddy turned round and said "Jesus dad, you've lost weight since this morning" They left fairly soon after, accompanied with the usual over the shoulder threats etc. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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