stu_young Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 just been thinking about how to fix my gun cabinet , would using construction epoxy to stick the bolts in to the wall be ok ? then just having the nut in the cabinet if you understand what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 As long as it is good and solid it should be ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Yep that's what I did. Top tip, make sure the bolt goes in dead square, if not, the longer you leave the bolt hanging out of the wall then the more difficult it is to marry the bolt up to the mounting holes in the cabinet. My second top tip is get a 20 mm steel drill bit to give the cabinet mounting holes a little bit of "extra" to cater for any wonky wall mounted bolts, and then use massive steel washers to cover it all up and make good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted January 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 was gonna drill the holes via the holes in then cabinet then epoxytheman then stick the bolts in via mounting hoes in the cabinet so thy line up ok..... wat size bolts do they normally take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 What type of wall is it eg brick, concreet block, selcon etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookbones Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 that would be fine so long as u use a 10 or 12mm thread bar,iv done it in the past with no probs tho atm im using m12 thunder bolts having worked in the steel fixings/fabrication industry i had a box full hanging round.. all u need to provide is resistance to attack with hand tools so be sure if its in a corner that it cant be levered away and if its on a flat that a pry cant be lodged at the back...my walls are all higgldy piggldy so i fitted a tapered board at the back so its flat to the wall i know a fella whos safe was bolted flat on the deck to the floor joists and that was cleared <new house with no hidden solid walls> just be very sure u blow out ALL the dust and do give it time to harden as the last thing u want is it to move even a mm when its checked and grind down the bar thats proud of the nut as they have stock damage written all over them steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted January 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 i was gonnaleave the nut flush so no bar was sticking out.. wuld i bebest to use nylock nuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 need some help i used t get my epoxy stuff off a builder mate off mine but he now lives in oz, where is the best place an the est type off epoxy adisve to use. i catremember the name off the stuff i used to get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune82 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I just covered the back of my cabinet in pritt stick and pressed it against the wall till it stuck! Passed first time! Hope this helps!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 hello mate, as you're a norfolk boy do you know where builders equipment is? they sell the stuff, its called SPIT and fits in an ordinary mastic gun. costs around 12 quid. have you drilled the holes yet? if you have then use a bolt 2mm smaller than the drill bit. the easiest way to fix the cabinet is mark and drill the holes, clean out the holes, then place the cabinet back in position and wedge tight to wall, thread the nuts on the bolts, apply epoxy resin, push bolts in, leave for about an hour and then tighten up the nuts. to protect the guns you can always wrap the heads with insulation tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Gram, that seems the most logical way of doing it. Where were you 2 years ago when I spent all day trying to make good my hash up? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Gram, that seems the most logical way of doing it. Where were you 2 years ago when I spent all day trying to make good my hash up? :blink: Sorry about that chap, maybe i'll start up a new business on here, how much commission do you think PW will charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I just covered the back of my cabinet in pritt stick and pressed it against the wall till it stuck! Passed first time! Hope this helps!! yea funny thanks for the help not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I used the screwfix own branded resin http://www.screwfix.com/prods/31582/Fixing...ion-Resin-380ml and these studs http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99026/Fixing...30mm-Pack-of-10 easiest way to clean out the hole is to use a vacume cleaner (i tried brushes and a little pump but the hoover was perfect.) My cabinet has 5 fixings and 1 stud sagged so I had to hit it hard with a lump hammer and it was still VERY firmly attached to the wall. Love these things :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) I also used the Screwfix resin and fixed the cabinet exactly as Gram described (using 10mm studs and a 12mm drill bit). I used some spare foam packing to cover the protruding bolt heads. Edited January 3, 2010 by SteveH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I used the screwfix own branded resin http://www.screwfix.com/prods/31582/Fixing...ion-Resin-380ml and these studs http://www.screwfix.com/prods/99026/Fixing...30mm-Pack-of-10 HOW MUCH!!!! Did you have to buy a special dispenser gun aswell, or does it fit in an ordinary mastic gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) I just covered the back of my cabinet in pritt stick and pressed it against the wall till it stuck! Passed first time! Hope this helps!! I hope you cut the heads off the bolts and glue them over the bolt holes! :blink: Phil Edited January 3, 2010 by RC45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 ahh lovely my o/h works next door to screwfix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 HOW MUCH!!!! Did you have to buy a special dispenser gun aswell, or does it fit in an ordinary mastic gun? As a one off an ordinary mastic gun will work if the action is tight as there is quite a lot of pressure. You need the heavy duty gun if you were doing it all the time. I was going to used threaded rod but it can be a pain to get the bolts started where it was cut. This system was quick, easy and very strong. £20 isn't a huge investment to fix the gun cabinet and a separate ammo safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 As a one off an ordinary mastic gun will work if the action is tight as there is quite a lot of pressure. You need the heavy duty gun if you were doing it all the time. I was going to used threaded rod but it can be a pain to get the bolts started where it was cut. This system was quick, easy and very strong. £20 isn't a huge investment to fix the gun cabinet and a separate ammo safe! Just surprised how much thoe bolts were, i've got a few hundred knocking about in my shed which got left over from a previous job, all stainless 150mm. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune82 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 yea funny thanks for the help not Dont worry about it mate! If your police force are really picky you might want to use UHU instead!! Let me know if you need any more help! Ta Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 lo l... was thinking blue tac myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Have you not got solid brick walls ? I still recon good old steel rawl bolts Cheep as chips from Screw fix six of them ! you'll need a JCB to drag your cabinet off the wall My cabinets are held on with 16mm Rawl bolts (A bit overkill i know but they were FREE) Wabbit from Fort Knox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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