Bobbo. Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I presently use a .22-250 with a T8 mod. for foxing but it still has quite a crack, I have a permission quite close to some houses and would like to keep the noise down, which one of the above would you recommend. Cheers Bobbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 To keep the noise down, Hornet's your calibre. It's not as good as the others in terms of energy or velocity or effective range, but it's considerably quieter than 223, which is a little quieter than 22-250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo. Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Cheers Mr. Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Another thumbs up for the Hornet from me. They're not bad little guns, but make sure you get a CZ! I switched over to the .17 Ackley Hornet which I think is even quieter and just as effective. It sounds more like a HMR! Maybe something to do with the smaller bullet causing less disturbance than the .22 does? The AH is more expensive though, both to buy and to get the reloading kit for. Once it's running though it's a sweet round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooting charley Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I use a .204 with a T8 mod it is alot better sound wise then the 22/250 Cheers shootingcharley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Just put a decent mod on it, mine sounds like a HV 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The hornet is quieter, but i would probably still go with the .222. I cant see the point in owning a rifle for one permission and the .222 is a slightly more flexible calibre. But if you do choose a Hornet you wont be disappointed, lovely little round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I have a CZ527 Hornet with a T4 mod on it which I use specifically for this senario. Very accurate and will knock them over out to 200 yards no problems. I use Winchester 46 grain hollow points. Here's one that was taking my Pheasants a few years ago. Cheers Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I would cast another vote for the Hornet. A friend has just "K"d his hornet and I am not sure if he really needed the extra case capacity fireforming gives him. But it is still deadly and not noticeably noisier. A very cost efficient round if you roll your own. ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I did a test a while back, Deker's HMR and my Hornet, we couldn't tell the difference in muzzle report, so whatever difference there may be is not significant enough to worry about. And Hornet's the same cost if you reload as HMR is to buy factory, so it's a bit of a no-brainer, given that it is as accurate and considerably more lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I did a test a while back, Deker's HMR and my Hornet, we couldn't tell the difference in muzzle report, so whatever difference there may be is not significant enough to worry about. And Hornet's the same cost if you reload as HMR is to buy factory, so it's a bit of a no-brainer, given that it is as accurate and considerably more lethal. ...and the HMR had a mod as well, just for clarification. Absolutely true, the difference in noise level was so small as to be indistinguishable to our ears!! I would have to say Hornet as well, as a direct answer to the question you ask, the 22-250 is noisy whatever you do to it, and Hornet is perfectly capable on fox out to a good distance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I often wonder why anyone with home loading kit bothers with the HMR. The Hornet is so similar to it when you shoot it, you wouldn't know it had 3x the power! I guess if you shoot a lot of rounds at just bunnies and don't want the bother of loading then the HMR makes sense, but for the little effort it takes to make the rounds the Hornet is such a huge improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 ... and Hornet is perfectly capable on fox out to a good distance! If you don't mind me asking, what's a good distance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 150-175 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guesty Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) If you reload, you can always download your 22-250 to Hornet perfomance and loudness. Edited February 2, 2010 by Guesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 It's tricky though, not just a question of use less powder - would be a problem in a 22-250 case. The Yanks use Blue Dot powder to do this so it can be done. Question is, can you be bothered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guesty Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 It's tricky though, not just a question of use less powder - would be a problem in a 22-250 case. The Yanks use Blue Dot powder to do this so it can be done. Question is, can you be bothered? I use Red dot in both my 223 and 308 with good success. I found it much cheaper and easier than buying a new rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 for the difference it would make i would keep what you got. even tho the hornet is going to be alot better then the 22/250 on the noise front. its still going to be a crack and for the amount your shooting its not like your constant going to be cracking lots of rounds off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Having just read through this again I'm wondering why nobody has said .22lr? Bait it in close and smack it between the eyes, the neighbours wont even know a gun has been fired! I know it's not a Fox round, but it will kill a Fox discretely if you really need to keep things quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Having just read through this again I'm wondering why nobody has said .22lr? Bait it in close and smack it between the eyes, the neighbours wont even know a gun has been fired! I know it's not a Fox round, but it will kill a Fox discretely if you really need to keep things quiet. I totally agree about the .22lr and subs and NOISE, and I have dealt with a LOT of foxes this way, I don't want to get into all this .22lr and foxes malarky though, ALL my rimfires are conditioned for fox, so lets just stop that one before we start it... Anyway... ..it could well be a distance type problem, when I use this tool it is primarily very close and because of the proximity of farmhouses, stable, barns, neighbours etc etc The Hornet can hit a lot further out...but it is MUCH noisier!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I am putting in for my fac and am asking for .22 Hornet. Nice to hear such positive stuff on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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