The Clay Rascal Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) Anybody ever used this on a semi instead of oil? As a plumber I have used this many times on metal and poly items in the course of my work and found it a fantastic product. I HAVE NOT USED it on my Urika 2 semi but just wondered if any one else had used it on the action and trigger group of any other make or type of gun. Thoughts please! PLEASE SEE MY UPDATE WARNING POST 13 Edited February 10, 2010 by The Clay Rascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Well....go on you be the guinea pig and let us know how you went on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I bought a silicone spray that was advertised for guns. Instructions said to warm the metal with a hairdryer, then spray the silicone on, wiping off any excess. I did this, but cannot say if it made my semi-auto cycle any faster. I suppose it does help though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hi, Just a word of advice. A mate was trying different lubricants and closed his AYA when it started to smoke and get hot. He said afterwards that he only just managed to get it open again before it may well have permanently "welded" closed. The different chemicals in the lubricants had inter-reacted. Having got that out of the way, yes, I use it as you describe. As you know the silicone is inert so unlike oil it won't affect the wood. However, the spray also contains the carrier and the propellant so to avoid any possibility of the above, make sure that all traces of the previous lubricants are removed. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Silicon is very bad for metal to metal contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clay Rascal Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Silicon is very bad for metal to metal contact. Hi would like to know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clay Rascal Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hi,Just a word of advice. A mate was trying different lubricants and closed his AYA when it started to smoke and get hot. He said afterwards that he only just managed to get it open again before it may well have permanently "welded" closed. The different chemicals in the lubricants had inter-reacted. Having got that out of the way, yes, I use it as you describe. As you know the silicone is inert so unlike oil it won't affect the wood. However, the spray also contains the carrier and the propellant so to avoid any possibility of the above, make sure that all traces of the previous lubricants are removed. Cheers Great answer wymberley, thanks, going to ask the TEC DEPT AT 3 IN 1 TO C WHAT THEY SAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clay Rascal Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I bought a silicone spray that was advertised for guns. Instructions said to warm the metal with a hairdryer, then spray the silicone on, wiping off any excess. I did this, but cannot say if it made my semi-auto cycle any faster. I suppose it does help thouh. ANY MAKE IN PARTICULAR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hi would like to know why? It doesn't lubricate well and so promotes wear on steel to steel surfaces. That doesn't mean it isn't good for protecting the blueing on a gun, I just wouldn't want to use it on the wear parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clay Rascal Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Great answer wymberley, thanks, going to ask the TEC DEPT AT 3 IN 1 TO C WHAT THEY SAY. Latest from 3 in one tec dep on this topic is-- temperature range for this is spray ------minus 40 centigrade to 200 centigrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutey Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 As previously stated, not to be used on metal to metal as a lubricant. Does a good job on shining up the barrels and the woodwork though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Hi, Oops! Someone has made a faux pas and I think that it probably wasn't the guy that specified it for lubricating the operating mechanism for the M1 Garand rifle for example. However, there's silicone and there's silicone so I would pay attention to what Steve said about using a product designed for use on guns. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Clay Rascal Posted February 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Anybody ever used this on a semi instead of oil? As a plumber I have used this many times on metal and poly items in the course of my work and found it a fantastic product. I HAVE NOT USED it on my Urika 2 semi but just wondered if any one else had used it on the action and trigger group of any other make or type of gun. Thoughts please! Please see information below, just back from 3 IN 1 MANUFACTURING DEPT, thanks for all your replies to my questions Please see detailed and useful response from our manufacturing department: I have a shotgun and have maintained it for over ten years with either WD-40, or 3-IN-ONE High Performance Lubricant. They are, to my mind much better propositions because they contain more beneficial additives than a straight silicone. These additives provide better durability, anti wear additives, extreme pressure additives and the ability to clean i.e. penetrate rust and corrosion deposits, and by inference powder and lead deposits. I find them both exceptionally effective in removing powder and shot deposits within the barrels. They will also remove finger marks and leave a thin protective deposit on blued surfaces thereby reducing the likelihood of corrosion. A very light application is all that is necessary. Ordinary WD-40 is probably a better bet than the 3-IN-ONE High Performance Lubricant on a semi-auto, in view of the presence of PTFE particles in the latter, which may cause jamming. I wouldn’t use the Silicone Spray. I hope this information is of assistance to you, any problems please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Hi, All, WD 40, now we're talking! Good for getting chewing gum that's got stuck in the kid's hair out, keeps flies off cows and is absolutely superb for arthritis pain. Honest. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulABF Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 The last spray I used on a semi was 'Spanish Fly Stay Hard' during a particularly boring winter tour of Bosnia. £5 from the back of a 'Fiesta' magazine. Not to be recommended. Nowadays on my rifles and shotguns I use army issued gun oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 The last spray I used on a semi was 'Spanish Fly Stay Hard' during a particularly boring winter tour of Bosnia. £5 from the back of a 'Fiesta' magazine. Not to be recommended. Nowadays on my rifles and shotguns I use army issued gun oil. That'll be OX 18, good isn't it. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog546 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Silicon spray is bad news for any tight fitting items especially metal items ,years ago I used it on the tap of my mark 1 airsporter after cocking the gun the second time the tap jammed and I had to drift it out of the barrel them wet and dry it to get rid of the scores. WD40 vapour alters the characteristics of gun powder and is frowned upon in the states for use on any weapons,Balistol is the oil of choice if you can still get it ,as it is a superb lubricant and has superb metal protecting properties,I think it used to come from Ruag Ammotec. VP90 is also superb so use oils specific for guns and you shouldnt go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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