refrigeration gas inhaled!!

[cocker3]

ok im a refrigeration engineer and been running a successful business for the last 17 years the gas would have been either R134a or R404a its completely safe the gas does not smell what you are smelling is mineral oil that has been blown out of the pipe work this is also safe

the only gas you have to be careful of is ammonia or R600A or R290 the later two are extremely flammable and these gases would not be in a industral fridge ammonia is dangerous

all gases are dangerous in enclosed spaces as they deplete the oxegen

the only time refrigeration gases become dangerous is when used in enclosed spaces <see above> or when the gas comes in contact with a naked flame then green flames are given of and then this becomes toxic .so please do not wory mate im in contact and work with these gases every day

this not all true i work in the motor trade and have just done my city and guildes on air con r134a and r12(r12 which is no longer permitted in the motor trade )are both very dangeros gases the dont have a smell but like house gas has an odder added to it so you can smell it when it leaks r143a is heavier tha air and if inhailed can actualy sufocat you as it is heavyer than air . and it is acriminal offense to nowingly relise it into the atmosfier look for drowsieness or nausia if so seek medical advise these gases are not to be messed with they can also cause sevire frost byte if the come into contact with bear skin Edited March 12, 2010 by cocker3

[Brad93]

Even old refrigerators, later than 1975 use a CFC, HCFC or HCF or tetrafluroethane which are all pretty inert and non toxic gases.

 

But best to get checked out, but i shouldn't imagine there is much danger, regrigerants are used because of low reactivity and volatility properties

[docholiday]

this not all true i work in the motor trade and have just done my city and guildes on air con r134a and r12(r12 which is no longer permitted in the motor trade )are both very dangeros gases the dont have a smell but like house gas has an odder added to it so you can smell it when it leaks r143a is heavier tha air and if inhailed can actualy sufocat you as it is heavyer than air . and it is acriminal offense to nowingly relise it into the atmosfier look for drowsieness or nausia if so seek medical advise these gases are not to be messed with they can also cause sevire frost byte if the come into contact with bear skin

 

I think I would go along with night owl

[night owl]

sorry mate but r12 has been obsolete for approx 10 years only found in a small number of very old fridges and some very old cars as for them adding a smell unforchantly that is not true as the stench they need to add to the gas to smell would become very acidic and cause considerable damage to any windings on the compressor .yes as r134a boils at -23 it can cause freezer burn but you have to almost touch the gas at the exit hole for it to burn

to suffocate from this gas you would need to barricade you self in a small room and litturly gas your self or breath it straight from the bottle

yes i have done the city and guilds courses for commercial refrigeration/welding and brazing construction /air conditioning for commercial use

total waste of money but needed to cover insurance and all the city and guilds courses me and you have done will be no good in 3 months time so we will have to sit them again under a different certificate name

one thing these teachers like to do is go way over the top in safety .did he tell you that if you are traveling through a tunnel and carring more then 100 kilo of gas you are ment to have a police escort if in transport of refridgeration gas <no that aint a wind up>

[digger]

If it was my daughter I think I would have gone to either a doctors or a hospital ?

[MM]

when i called NHS direct, they said if any symptoms get worse within a few hours, go to hospital. both were fine after a short time.

[libs]

I am sure I have seen you smoking in pictures posted up on here.

 

Are you really that bothered about what goes into your lungs?

 

Look away kids!

 

 

[Bobbo.]

You'll stay fresher longer.

[ST3V3]

if these gases are so harmless why is it they are supposedly making a hole in the ozone layer?

[shot shot]

if these gases are so harmless why is it they are supposedly making a hole in the ozone layer?

ironically, it's because they reduce poisonous gases (O3)

[night owl]

^ agree but to complicated to be botherd to explaine if you are intrested google it

[Robbly]

If it's anything like car refridgerent(R134a) it'll be heavier the air,we're advised to get in to a press up position with your legs higher than your head to allow the gas to drain off.