remmy1100 Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 been having a arguement with my mate over this subject he says you do not need a shotgun licence to have cartridges in your possession. i disagree with this as you need licence to buy them, anyone know the law on this matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 You need a licence to BUY them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 yeah i know that ,but he says it is legal for someone to have cartridges in there possession without holding a shotgun certificate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 yeah i know that ,but he says it is legal for someone to have cartridges in there possession without holding a shotgun certificate? Yes its legal to own or be in possesion shotgun cartridges without a SGC as well as that did you know you can purchase everything you need to load shotgun cartridges Without a SGC or FAC or explosives licence All you need is picture ID WB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caragh Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 My understanding is that you need a licence to buy cartridges but can they give them to someone without a licence, seems strange but apparently is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 it seams strange when the police are fighting to stop criminals getting guns and ammunition, that you can buy the items to self load with little trouble crazy... let alone have shells without a licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Dont think you need as licence to buy them, most places just ask to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Following that, the following is copied from 'Firearms Law, Guidance to the police': iii) Shot Gun Cartridges A Shot gun certificate is not required to possess or acquire shot gun cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which diameter. All ordinary shot cartridges are covered by this description. However, a shot gun certificate (or firearm certificate authorising possession of a section 1 shot gun) is normally required to purchase shotgun cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Following that, the following is copied from 'Firearms Law, Guidance to the police': iii) Shot Gun Cartridges A Shot gun certificate is not required to possess or acquire shot gun cartridges containing five or more shot, none of which diameter. All ordinary shot cartridges are covered by this description. However, a shot gun certificate (or firearm certificate authorising possession of a section 1 shot gun) is normally required to purchase shotgun cartridges. That's interesting, does this mean that to acquire shotgun cartridges you don't need a SGC? The example given does state "acquire". Acquiring would also mean purchasing would it not? If so does this mean gunshops are overstepping their authourity in asking us to produce our SGC's everytime we buy cartridges?. I realise it says "normally required". A contradiction surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 I don't think I would call the gun shop 'overstepping thier authority' in this situation. Infact I would commend them for stipluating the production of such a certificate. If the law states its legal to buy without, it shouldnt, we all agree on that. So the RFD is doing the right thing by enforcing a requirement that is not legally required. In my opinion that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNicholls Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 How can anybody enforce something that is not a legal requirement? I do not think production of a SGC is a bad thing when buying cartridges, on the contrary, it's a good thing. Gets me though that I have to keep on showing my cert when the guy in the shop has seen it every time I go in there and knows my face etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 yeah i know that ,but he says it is legal for someone to have cartridges in there possession without holding a shotgun certificate? Yes its legal to own or be in possesion shotgun cartridges without a SGC as well as that did you know you can purchase everything you need to load shotgun cartridges Without a SGC or FAC or explosives licence All you need is picture ID WB Some shops don't even ask for picture ID for buying powder or primers. Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 I get what your saying Chris but, you cant have it both ways. If its a good thing for the shop to behave in a fasion as they would with FAC ammo, then they should follow it to its fullest. They are not to know that your license is still valid or that you have had it pulled for any reason. Is it any hardship to show it as opposed to letting any tom **** or harry buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 when i go to buy carts my gun shop dont ask to my licence he has seen it befor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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