adam scott Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 here is the gamo i use for my pest control in built up area's. cracking gun! with a hawke scope. exellent! my only regret is not spending another 50 squid for the como one. same rifle just camo'd. o and the pidge i just nailed out the garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 101 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 That rifle looks good in black , nice set up there . That pidgeon you must have shot on your permission NOT IN THE BACK GARDEN . Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 That rifle looks good in black , nice set up there . That pidgeon you must have shot on your permission NOT IN THE BACK GARDEN . Dave Why not in the back garden, especially if said "pidegoen" was destroying a crop you grow there and all other methods to persuade it not to had failed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 ah u see i was out planting my spinage! honestly! no really i was! been out all mornin in my green house when i went in for but a moment. i turned round and there he was!!! little blighter! tell me is it true it is leagle to fire a shotgun in your back garden aslong as the shot does not leave the boundries?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Nice rifle Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANO Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 (edited) It is perfectly legal to fire an air rifle in your back garden as long as the pellet does not leave the premises. I believe though you must be at least 50m from the public highway, and as long as the neibours dont complain. Twas a very nice policeman told me that a couple of days ago while I was using a chrono. Feel free to correct me if im wrong..........( but then so is the nice policeman ) Hey adam scott..........I just noticed you are from BLOXHAM.... Is that the bloxham near Banbury oxford..... If so my friend we simply must get together. I am just down the road from you LOWER HEYFORD. Edited May 10, 2010 by KANO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 hello mate! yes i am from bloxham near banbury. i agree! we should organise a day's pigeon shoting together? how does that sound?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANO Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 (edited) Sounds like fun. My son is into it big time too,as is my son in law. Cant see anywhere on the forum for a PM. Edited May 11, 2010 by KANO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 brave man. i'll txt you so u have mine. well then i guess we will all have to go claying also! as it would be nice for everyone to get a shot. do u own shotgun's? or is it only air rifle's you use?? atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) Just click on the members name, drop down will give you the option of PM. Delete yer number now! Edited May 11, 2010 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANO Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 done and done kyska. sorry now you need to delete the quote. Is that a malamute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 done and done kyska. sorry now you need to delete the quote. Is that a malamute. Done mate, and no, its my lead sibe husky 'Xyla'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 What gun mate ?? and how much did you pay for it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 lovely lookin dog mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 it's a gamo. not quite sure of what model. i payed around 200 for the gun! then anouther 70 odd for the sights. wanted the best sight's (without going mad) for an air rifle. seem's alot. but i was what i wanted! it's a killing machine! have killed rabbit's at 50 yards with it. and it would stretch to 60 yards if your good enough for a head shot! me i'll stick to the shoulders for a clean kill and no risk of cliping the rabbit and giving it a slow and painful death. no need. atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 it's a gamo. not quite sure of what model. i payed around 200 for the gun! then anouther 70 odd for the sights. wanted the best sight's (without going mad) for an air rifle. seem's alot. but i was what i wanted! it's a killing machine! have killed rabbit's at 50 yards with it. and it would stretch to 60 yards if your good enough for a head shot! me i'll stick to the shoulders for a clean kill and no risk of cliping the rabbit and giving it a slow and painful death. no need. atb Have you had the chrono on it by any chance, very few Gamo seem to get above 10ft lb, what is yours doing? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Have you had the chrono on it by any chance, very few Gamo seem to get above 10ft lb, what is yours doing? Cheers i'm not sure what u mean! i'm no expert. bought it new. it's max strenght so i guess it is 12ft/lbs. i didnt think much to gamo untill i got this little beauty. was well worth it. has done me well and i've only had it a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 i'm not sure what u mean! i'm no expert. bought it new. it's max strenght so i guess it is 12ft/lbs. i didnt think much to gamo untill i got this little beauty. was well worth it. has done me well and i've only had it a year or so. I was curious, several Gamo are rated at full power, but very seldom make it, many are also rated less than 12ft lb. My lad has the Gamo Shadow RSV bought new, (meant to be full power), and the best we can do with it is about 10.4ft lb having tried around 20 different pellets, most are under 10 and several were under 9ft lb! Not seen it for about a year or so as he is in Swindon now, but yours looks rather like the Shadow to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) It is perfectly legal to fire an air rifle in your back garden as long as the pellet does not leave the premises. I believe though you must be at least 50m from the public highway, and as long as the neibours dont complain. Just a small correction, the pellet CAN leave your boundary if you have permission to shoot on the land the other side as well, having it flying through hedges when you don't know what is the other side is obviously a bad idea though. You can shoot pests in your own garden provided the clauses of the general licence are satisfied. I grow a lot of veg so rabbits and pigeons will both get one in the head when I spot them, I also grow Hazlenuts, so same goes for squirrels. You CAN shoot within 50ft (not metres) of a highway as long as doing so doesn't endanger or cause distress to a user of the highway. Neighbours complaining about noise is a civil matter for you to resolve with them if necessary. Adam, I started my shooting life with a Gamo Whisper X and it got me into the sport sufficiently for me to now have my FAC and SGC. Nice guns, have you had the trigger sorted, that was the only bit about it I couldn't get on with. Edited May 12, 2010 by Colster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Adam, I started my shooting life with a Gamo Whisper X and it got me into the sport sufficiently for me to now have my FAC and SGC. Nice guns, have you had the trigger sorted, that was the only bit about it I couldn't get on with. hi, i have not had a problem with the trigger so far! why?? what went wrong with your's? it's alot of fun for me. as i am a carpenter & general builder i talk to customers about what i do and often they have problems with pest's like squirrels on the strawbery's and jackdaws in the chimneys!. air rifles are amazing guns for built up area pest control. now i have owned a gamo i would never rule one out! the only thing i dont know about them is how they hold up to the test of time! u know--what will go wrong with it in the future a?? i'm sorry i dont know what ft/lb it is? i dont know how to test it either?? i think it will all lead to getting a fac because i like walkin about for rabbits, so it makes sense to get a .22 bullet rifle. but for now i'm happy with my air rifle and shotgun licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) Adam, Ft/lb is a way of measuring the energy of a projectile, It is a measure of the energy in the bullet. A foot-pound will lift one pound a distance of 1 foot--in one second. So, lets say you have a bullet that weighs 1/100 of a pound. If it has enough energy to move 100 feet in 1 second, it has 1 foot pound; if it moves 200 feet in 1 second, it has 2 foot pounds, if it moves 1000 feet in one second, it has 10 foot pounds. If your bullet weighs 1/50 of a pound, and moves 100 feet in 1 second, thats 2 foot pounds. Its based on the standard acceleration of gravity, but you don't need to know this.... Its calculated by the weight of the projectile in grains X (speed in) feet per second X feet per second divided by 450240. If you measure the speed of your pellet with a known weight, through a chrono, and do the calculations you'll get a ft/lb solution, anything over 12ft/lb requires a firearm certificate. IE my hmr fires a 17g bullet at 2550 fps So, 17x2550x2550/450240 = 246 ft/lb (rounded up) My rapid 7 does this 18 grain AA extras at 967 fps 18*967*967/450240 = 37ft/lb (rounded down) :blink: Adam, I started my shooting life with a Gamo Whisper X and it got me into the sport sufficiently for me to now have my FAC and SGC. Nice guns, have you had the trigger sorted, that was the only bit about it I couldn't get on with. hi, i have not had a problem with the trigger so far! why?? what went wrong with your's? it's alot of fun for me. as i am a carpenter & general builder i talk to customers about what i do and often they have problems with pest's like squirrels on the strawbery's and jackdaws in the chimneys!. air rifles are amazing guns for built up area pest control. now i have owned a gamo i would never rule one out! the only thing i dont know about them is how they hold up to the test of time! u know--what will go wrong with it in the future a?? i'm sorry i dont know what ft/lb it is? i dont know how to test it either?? i think it will all lead to getting a fac because i like walkin about for rabbits, so it makes sense to get a .22 bullet rifle. but for now i'm happy with my air rifle and shotgun licence. Edited May 12, 2010 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 hi, i have not had a problem with the trigger so far! why?? what went wrong with your's? it's alot of fun for me. as i am a carpenter & general builder i talk to customers about what i do and often they have problems with pest's like squirrels on the strawbery's and jackdaws in the chimneys!. air rifles are amazing guns for built up area pest control. now i have owned a gamo i would never rule one out! the only thing i dont know about them is how they hold up to the test of time! u know--what will go wrong with it in the future a?? I found with mine the break point would be inconsistant, so you'd squeeze the trigger while steadying your aim and before you expected it would fire, other times it seemed to need more pressure. You can buy a replacement trigger for them though (GRT III), which sorts it out nicely and is a doddle to fit. As for standing the test of time, I couldn't say as it got me into the sport and I sold it and replaced it with a FAC AirArms S400 Xtra, a CZ452 .22LR and a Shotgun, it certainly never lost it's zero though and gave me many happy but challenging evenings wandering around bagging bunnies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) Adam, Ft/lb is a way of measuring the energy of a projectile, It is a measure of the energy in the bullet. A foot-pound will lift one pound a distance of 1 foot--in one second. So, lets say you have a bullet that weighs 1/100 of a pound. If it has enough energy to move 100 feet in 1 second, it has 1 foot pound; if it moves 200 feet in 1 second, it has 2 foot pounds, if it moves 1000 feet in one second, it has 10 foot pounds. If your bullet weighs 1/50 of a pound, and moves 100 feet in 1 second, thats 2 foot pounds. Its based on the standard acceleration of gravity, but you don't need to know this.... Its calculated by the weight of the projectile in grains X (speed in) feet per second X feet per second divided by 450240. If you measure the speed of your pellet with a known weight, through a chrono, and do the calculations you'll get a ft/lb solution, anything over 12ft/lb requires a firearm certificate. IE my hmr fires a 17g bullet at 2550 fps So, 17x2550x2550/450240 = 246 ft/lb (rounded up) My rapid 7 does this 18 grain AA extras at 967 fps 18*967*967/450240 = 37ft/lb (rounded down) Interesting stuff. I always avoided thinking about foot pounds as its about as un-SI as units go. Thanks for the explanation. Edited May 12, 2010 by libs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANO Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 (edited) You CAN shoot within 50ft (not metres) of a highway I stand corrected on the 50 ft not meters colster, thanks for putting that right. If you want to Adam we can chrono it friday and answer Dekers queery............LOL Edited May 13, 2010 by KANO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam scott Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I stand corrected on the 50 ft not meters colster, thanks for putting that right. If you want to Adam we can chrono it friday and answer Dekers queery............LOL hello mate sorry about friday! **** hath hitteth the faneth mate! havent split yet but i fear it is on the cards! i spent the weekend at me mothers as the break would do us good! just have to wait and c what happens a. i'd sure like to find out exactly what ft/lb me gun is! we will have to re-orgonise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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