andy_s Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 i am currently trying to convinve myself to upgrade from my old bsa supersport to some kind of pcp air rifle mainly because i like the idea of it being quieter and less recoil to affect the pellet trajectory. although while reading up on pcp's people seem to say that the power output can vary from the first shot to the last shot per charge which i assume must affect the pellet trajectory so are they actually anymore accurate or easier to shoot than my old springer which will be pretty consistant from shot to shot but will have a "twang" from the spring. i'm sure pcp's must be the way forward because most of you guys seem to have them but i just to make sure i'm making a worthwhile purchase before i buy myself a nice shiny new gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Go for it you will not be dissapointed I also have a BSA Supersport It was was my first gun when I was 14. Im now 33 and I still have it. I have not shot it for years. the PCP rifles are a different world from springers. the accuracy is absolutley fantastic in pcp rifles. when you purchase one just find a pellet thet suits the gun and you will be amased I can reccomend the Air Arms S400/410 range of rifles. I sold my AAS410 about 6 months ago and its the biggest mistake ive made in the past 6 months. Im now looking for a new one. I dont think you can beat the AAS410k for hunting its light weight compact deadly accurate and very reliable. or a AAS400 for target shooting. there is an article on the AAS400 in this months Air Gunner magazine. Good luck Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 get one bought you will think why did i wait so long try a second had full package and get a divers bottle not a pump there rubbish SWISS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will8371 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 get one bought you will think why did i wait so long try a second had full package and get a divers bottle not a pump there rubbish SWISS i agree with Swiss, a pcp is a much better rifle genre. its accuracy is unsurpassed due to no recoil, especially if you have been shooting springers and can shoot straight with them. however i would go the other way regarding a pump. it does take a hell of a lot of work to get your rifle filled, but a pumps cost is the price of a pump, whereas a bottle will have to be tested, filled at a gunsmiths etc...if you don't have a fill up station near you remember the cost of petrol to get it filled as well as the inconvenience .. i have both, luckily i live 50m from my local gunsmiths so filling up isn't a problem. if you have the funds look for a second hand air arms s410, you will not be disappointed.a good second hand s410 will set you back 350 maybe with a scope, a second hand pump, another 70. a tank will cost you 100 plus.as well as the cost of filling etc. hope this helps ,will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 theres a guy sellin a rapid 7 full set up 600 quid in the gun section if that tickles ya fancy trust me u wont go wrong with 1 of them but up to fella SWISS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 theres a guy sellin a rapid 7 full set up 600 quid in the gun section if that tickles ya fancy trust me u wont go wrong with 1 of them but up to fella SWISS Jeez Swiss, you're up even earlier than me... or just got in? As said above, PCP's are chillingly accurate and also open up the use of a bipod. Shooting off a bipod makes them worth it imo. Although if you were considering going for your FAC, I'd add FAC Air to the application and get a FAC PCP instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 When you purchase a PCP you`ll throw your spring guns in the bin!!Trust me you won`t go back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesLeic Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Id second the above comments the pcp's are a world apart from the springers and deffinately worth it - i would also add the potential for quick follow up shots (no pulling levers etc just a very quick cock that can be done with finger and thumb and is only an inch or two of movement not disturbing your fireing position at all). Deffinately worth it in my opinion and i would also deffinately recommend the rapid 7's as an excellent shoice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Id second the above comments the pcp's are a world apart from the springers and deffinately worth it - i would also add the potential for quick follow up shots (no pulling levers etc just a very quick cock that can be done with finger and thumb and is only an inch or two of movement not disturbing your fireing position at all).Deffinately worth it in my opinion and i would also deffinately recommend the rapid 7's as an excellent shoice I agree. I put off getting a PCP for many years due to the cost of them and went out and bought a springer instead. Finally after about 5 years I bit the bullet and bought a PCP, an air arms s410k and couldnt believe the difference. It made me actually enjoy air rifles. The biggest supprise I had was that the thing was totally silent. No noise at all. The only noise I could hear was the pellet hitting the target. No twang from the spring, no bang, nothing. Second benefit was 10 shots, quick and easy reloading and the biggest supprise was how accurate the thing was, with no recoil. Id highly recommend getting a PCP... you wont look back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) You have to look at your current use and intended future use...as best you can! There was a time I could deal with 10p size knock downs free standing every shot with my old Airsporter at 30 yards, these days I would struggle to hit a barn door with it. The rifle is just as good..it's me...I just can't deal with that spring belt anymore after years of PCP, many people use Springers to good effect and when you know your gun they can be very effective. A PCP is a whole new world of shooting, but is comes at a price premium, charging premium and arguably inconvenience premium. Nevertheless, if you can afford a PCP...and all the malarkey around it, then I'm sure you will be over the moon! Edited July 3, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Shooting a PCP is child's play. If you can't put pellet on pellet once zeroed and using a bipod you should give up. They're quiet compared to a gas ram or springer too. I wouldn't worry too much about the power curve either, unless your HFT'ing it won't be much of an issue. A multi-shot mag is a bonus too. However, they are a bit clinical compared to a springer. Not having shot a springer for years I struggled when I first bought my Eliminator (which replaced a lovely Daystate Harrier X PCP); now I wouldn't swap for the world. I absolutely love shooting it and it gives me a warm rosy glow of satisfaction when I nail something using good old fashioned hand supports rather than relying on a bipod. Mind you it's not exactly subtle to reload, unlike a multishot PCP. I'd say do it. The Air Arms S410's are superb bits of kit, but keep your springer if you can, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 If you want a PCP then get one. A clinical, relable and fantastic hunting tool. However a springer is just as good, cheaper to run, less hassle and just as accurate. Oh and a springer teaches you good technique, the first thing to slide when you buy a PCP! (I have an AAS410) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Stop thinking about it and buy one,you will never shoot a springer again,anything you can do with a springer a pcp will do it better. Buy AA S410,the bolt action one Get a .177,faster flatter trajectory,so more accurate over a greater distance Use rws superdome pellets,these are brilliant and the pellet of choice Use a divers bottle unless your,skint,an athlete or have a death wish Your comment on pellets on a curved trajectory from first shot to last,this is ONLY if you fill to max pressure then use ALL the air,this is not how you use a pcp,the way to do it is to find the sweet point,ie fill it up and shoot it until its useless,make a note of when the pellet is dead on at the upper and lower limits of fill,this is the sweet spot,mine (as above) was between 180-100bar,above or below this pressure is a waste of time and a waste of air,you will still have loads of shots between this range. Unless you own something like a pro sport or a tx200hc,you will not use a springer again,so you may as well sell it. atb,Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermun Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 i just bought my first pcp. A cheap hatsan 10 shot,what a fantastic gun had already bought 2nd hand bottle off here! now thinking about the two springers..... might be on here soon. a branthwaite has a really good deal on the hatsan so much so hes bought all the edgar bros stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Just bought my first Pre Charged rifle and boy i'm not dissapointed. No recoil, whisper quiet with the vortex silencer and pellet on pellet accuracy. I wish i bought one years ago but all good things come to those who wait. You will never go back to spring or gas ram once you enter the PCP world. Their simply great guns. Divers bottle is a must. The hand pumps are hard work and take ages to charge your gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 A pcp is not "better" than a springer It is different, and for those with a poor shooting technique it can enable them to become a better shot. They are more expensive to maintain and service, hardly any of which you can do at home unless you are competant enough. As for that rubbish about the pumps :blink: A pump is useful for topping up a rifle after a hunting trip. For sure it is a bit of effort but as long as the pump is serviced it is a piece of **** to use! I serviced mine last week and it's like silk now. No effort at all. The only real benefit of a divers bottle is the quality of the air in it. It is drier than that from a pump. Although having a dripak fitted is nearly as good. PCP's are good make no mistake but for heavens sake you should really be a competant shot on a springer first, and if possible keep one in the cabinet to keep your technique upto scratch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_s Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 thanks for the replies guys. well i think you've convinced me that pcp is the way to go. just need to save some money and decide what to buy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 "I dont think you can beat the AAS410k for hunting its light weight compact deadly accurate and very reliable" I agree. I Had a 95k had it tuned.Now own a AA410 so much nicer to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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