Paul223 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Thats good advise thanks, I'll look into a vest. Do I wear the bra on the outside or inside of my clothes? Where do you live?? essex way then on the outside, every where else keep it quiet, wear it underneath clothing Heladoxa pics yes, just send me your wife's bra, sure i can find someone to model it :blink: Edited July 12, 2010 by Paul223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Thats good advise thanks, I'll look into a vest. I bought a vest after i got bitten by my new pea shooter (BTW this was with 24g Eley carts after 50.....) good luck with the lesson since getting the vest and reactor pad haven't had a problem......not a single bruise Edited July 12, 2010 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyp Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 "For the man that brusies" http://www.blagman.co.uk/uploaded_images/DSCF0144-709277.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 to get bruises down the arm your mounting on the shoulder joint ball whatever you want to call it, and not in the pocket, the guns jumping around, quite sure a lesson will sort you out, if you intend to shoot a few clays regularly then buy a beretta vest with the recoil pad, the pad does not cover the shoulder joint so you will feel it when mounting incorrectly :blink: if you borrow a bra off the wife (yours not mine ) and wear it the stock should sit where the strap comes down the front of the shoulder pocket Ahhh those welsh cross dressers,despite trying to wear a bra ? i have never had a bruise like those shown,its all got to be down to gun mount and or fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Ahhh those welsh cross dressers,despite trying to wear a bra ? i have never had a bruise like those shown,its all got to be down to gun mount and or fit Did you just admit that you wear a bra whilst shooting sooooooooooo? on show or under other garments, ........... i suppose the easy question would be do you have a hankering to be an essex boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 I got a bruise for the first time last week after shooting 100+ cartridges through a gun with a LOP of only 13" and while shooting sitting down. The bruise was in the pocket of my shoulder, but I don't mention it I fitted a 1" recoil pad and then used it at the weekend without any problems. Looks like a gun fit problem to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 So after my first appointment with my shooting instructor... The gun is too short for me, he said to have it altered rather than changing it My hold was wrong I cant my head as I'm left eye dominant and shoot right handed (not many ways around this, close my left eye very close the the shot, use shooting glasses with a left eye blank or have my left eye removed....just need to choose....won't be the glasses as I can't wear them all day on the farm, so I might have my eye removed) He was very good, shot 3 pair with him just watching me and he immediately asked if I was a rifle shooter. Got the hold sorted....and missed everything bar a few ...but in the long run it should help according to him. Going back next week, not too expensive at £35 an hour including 50 clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 if your left eye is your master eye try useing an eye patch when you use the shotgun after a few times useing it try shooting again without it this should help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 So after my first appointment with my shooting instructor... The gun is too short for me, he said to have it altered rather than changing it My hold was wrong I cant my head as I'm left eye dominant and shoot right handed (not many ways around this, close my left eye very close the the shot, use shooting glasses with a left eye blank or have my left eye removed....just need to choose....won't be the glasses as I can't wear them all day on the farm, so I might have my eye removed) I am in the same boat, how dominant is your left eye? mine is very dominant and spots and squinting don't work for me I was advised to shoot left handed, I know own a LH gun and shoot it as well as i did RH with a RH gun only been out with 3 or 4 times first one hurt! thats the image i posted after 50! For me having both eyes open wasn't an option shooting RH and its very hard to judge speed and distance with one eye, so i am learning to shoot left handed, I am and always will be right handed for everything else tho (well i eat left handed which most left handers dont do...) With both eyes open RH i only see the side of the barrels, if you see 2 images then you can probably change dominance, if one solid side of barrels then it will be hard, my right eye isnt as good as my left so i didn't really want to change the dominance as it would effect my overall site. Drop me a PM if you want more info. The long thread i started is here: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...l=eye+dominance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedbradshaw Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Should sort it out! The first time i ever went i had quite a bruise, ever since then i have not had a mark on me! is it a o/u or sxs you are using? Try switching to semi auto, you will see a noticable difference in recoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 My left eye is extremely dominant, as it happens I have no stereoscopic vision anyway as my pupil in my right eye isn't in the center of my iris, but as I was born like that I have compensated, I wouldn't even know what a 3D world looks like as according to many eye specialist live in pretty much a 2D world. So, by closing one eye, my depth of field doesn't change much anyway, I just get a 'parallax' type effect, in built parallax rangefinding you see, but thats no good for a clay doing 30 mph past my head. I imagine there are shooters out there with only one eye, and they don't have much choice. I went for a round yesterday, 30 bird sporting and got over half, which for my second go at clay I'm not too unhappy about, it was actually the birds flying away from me that caused the problem. I think I may have to just accept that I'll never be an olympic shot. It seemed to work to keep my eyes open until the last second or so, and then close my dominant eye. Thanks for all the advice guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 either the stock is far too long for you. or you havn't mounted the gun correctly the gun should sit in the pocket of your shoulder and dont pull it tight in just let it brush and no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Although you should really hold the forend correctly unstead of resting it on your fist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 either the stock is far too long for you. or you havn't mounted the gun correctly the gun should sit in the pocket of your shoulder and dont pull it tight in just let it brush and no more The stock according to my instructor is too short! I also was told to have the forend in my palm with one finger running down the edge of the forend to aid wrist movement, I'll get the gun sorted, doesn't help my 'parallax eye' though, good for rifle though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealchucknorris Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I had a bruise on the very top of my torso where it goes into my shoulder the very first time I shot a 12 bore. Every time since I've made sure I keep the gun tight and haven't had an issue. Never had one down my arm though.f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) My left eye is extremely dominant, as it happens I have no stereoscopic vision anyway as my pupil in my right eye isn't in the center of my iris, but as I was born like that I have compensated, I wouldn't even know what a 3D world looks like as according to many eye specialist live in pretty much a 2D world. So, by closing one eye, my depth of field doesn't change much anyway, I just get a 'parallax' type effect, in built parallax rangefinding you see, but thats no good for a clay doing 30 mph past my head. I imagine there are shooters out there with only one eye, and they don't have much choice. I went for a round yesterday, 30 bird sporting and got over half, which for my second go at clay I'm not too unhappy about, it was actually the birds flying away from me that caused the problem. I think I may have to just accept that I'll never be an olympic shot. It seemed to work to keep my eyes open until the last second or so, and then close my dominant eye. Thanks for all the advice guys. If you can go to Barbysporting in Rugby and have a lesson with Gordon, great guy and coach also a LH shooter my right eye isnt as bad as yours and while left handed shooting may seem awful it come quite easily with a bit of practise. Something just struck me about your post are you shooting right handed and closing your left eye? Or shooting R/H and closing your right eye? Edited July 16, 2010 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 (edited) as i understand it right handed, shooting off the left shoulder, closing right eye, because of the eye problem Edited July 17, 2010 by Paul223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 as i understand it right handed, shooting off the left shoulder, closing right eye, because of the eye problem Bruise is on the right arm so i guess Right handed, shooting off right shoulder but closing which eye? the left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Ah, right handed and closing left eye to give my right eye the dominance. I've been thinking also, shooting left handed won't help, as my right eye still won't give me stereoscopic vision, if I try and explain, I can 'shift' which eye to look through if that makes sense, as my pupil in my right isn't central in my iris. If I switch to my right the angle of vision to me is different to the left by a larger margin of 'normal' people. I think thats why it wasn't suggested by the coach to shoot left handed, rather just shoot with one eye open as it doesn't affect my depth of field like most it would most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 either the stock is far too long for you. or you havn't mounted the gun correctly the gun should sit in the pocket of your shoulder and dont pull it tight in just let it brush and no more Although you should really hold the forend correctly unstead of resting it on your fist. yep. no barrel controll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 either the stock is far too long for you. or you havn't mounted the gun correctly the gun should sit in the pocket of your shoulder and dont pull it tight in just let it brush and no more yep. no barrel controll. :blink: maybe it's got a pistol grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Ah, right handed and closing left eye to give my right eye the dominance. I've been thinking also, shooting left handed won't help, as my right eye still won't give me stereoscopic vision, if I try and explain, I can 'shift' which eye to look through if that makes sense, as my pupil in my right isn't central in my iris. If I switch to my right the angle of vision to me is different to the left by a larger margin of 'normal' people. I think thats why it wasn't suggested by the coach to shoot left handed, rather just shoot with one eye open as it doesn't affect my depth of field like most it would most people. Interesting, in that case if you have just as good vision with one eye closed then stick with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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