kyska Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hi all, Now, I'm new to clay shooting, shoot as mant pigeons as I can, and tend to do better on pigeon than clay for some reason. Changed from 28's to 24's in my 20b today and have sen a mass improvement on my shooting. I'm not any good, really, not any good as I tended to hit around a 3rd of whatever is been thrown up, but from changing to 24's I've gone up to nearly 50%, surely I've just had a good day?? The gun is fixed choke, 26 odd inch, 20b beretta...not the classic clay gun, I know. How and why? Also, is it worth an investment into a 12 MC if I'm doing more clay or should I stick to my gun built for 'ladies'/toddlers/homo's? Kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themacclad Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 It's only a guess but it could be that your throwing a better pattern with the 24's. with 28's sometimes shot gets damaged when fired causing less effective patterns,........................ possibly your shooting better due to less recoil from smaller shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 stick with what you've got if your starting to hit more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hi all, Now, I'm new to clay shooting, shoot as mant pigeons as I can, and tend to do better on pigeon than clay for some reason. Changed from 28's to 24's in my 20b today and have sen a mass improvement on my shooting. I'm not any good, really, not any good as I tended to hit around a 3rd of whatever is been thrown up, but from changing to 24's I've gone up to nearly 50%, surely I've just had a good day?? The gun is fixed choke, 26 odd inch, 20b beretta...not the classic clay gun, I know. How and why? Also, is it worth an investment into a 12 MC if I'm doing more clay or should I stick to my gun built for 'ladies'/toddlers/homo's? Kyska Dont underate the 20 bore mate,its a more than capable gun BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Also, is it worth an investment into a 12 MC if I'm doing more clay or should I stick to my gun built for 'ladies'/toddlers/homo's? Kyska It depends on your orientation sunbeam How's the shoulder? what are the chokes fixed to? if they're too tight then you might do better at clays with a multi choke, but if it were me then i'd stick with what i had as the tighter choke will improve kills at range. However, a new gun doesn't have to break the bank, plenty of good guns for sale on here, or you could buy a new hatsan with change from £400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 It depends on your orientation sunbeam How's the shoulder? what are the chokes fixed to? if they're too tight then you might do better at clays with a multi choke, but if it were me then i'd stick with what i had as the tighter choke will improve kills at range. However, a new gun doesn't have to break the bank, plenty of good guns for sale on here, or you could buy a new hatsan with change from £400. Ah, thats the critical question, I'm with a female at the minute... Its fixed at 1/4 and 1/2. Does having such a short gun impede me? I'm keeping up with my shooting buddies, and have no probs with the 20g, but as stated in the shooting sports that 12g is the 'king of clays', am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ah, thats the critical question, I'm with a female at the minute... Its fixed at 1/4 and 1/2. Does having such a short gun impede me? I'm keeping up with my shooting buddies, and have no probs with the 20g, but as stated in the shooting sports that 12g is the 'king of clays', am I missing something? Yes mate 50% of your clays BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Its fixed at 1/4 and 1/2. Does having such a short gun impede me? I'm keeping up with my shooting buddies, and have no probs with the 20g, but as stated in the shooting sports that 12g is the 'king of clays', am I missing something? 1/4 & 1/2 isn't that tight, just about right i'd say, the only reason i can think 12g is more popular is down to the price of cartridges, about 20% cheaper? A short barrel will move quicker, a longer one will keep on target easier once aquired. Maybe more practice is all you need. I'd suggest that you keep plugging away, as it's your first gun then it might not be such a good idea to change it for something that handles differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 i shoot with a 25" sbs,and i dont hit much but i'm not blaming the gun....................its because i'm ****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Less recoil so getting on the second bird early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted July 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Yes mate 50% of your clays BB Too true...funny ******! GRAM..I'll keep going then, see what happens. Is it worth trying 21g? If I get better results, and the results are logarithmic I'm better off with an air pistol for clays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 The lad shoots with gamebore supercomp 24g shells , pattern well in his gun maybe the same goes for yours and you just get a better pattern with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Too true...funny ******! GRAM..I'll keep going then, see what happens. Is it worth trying 21g? If I get better results, and the results are logarithmic I'm better off with an air pistol for clays? try everything mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 I did a round at big Al's with a 12g and then a 20g and got the same score.Perhaps better quality carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 what were you shooting? sporting? I used some 24g 12 and was really dusting them on skeet tried some 21g and 28 on sporting and was terrible, thinking of buying a box or 2 of 24g and having a go from what i have read some shells work well in some guns/chokes some not so good stick to the 24's and see if you keep improving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Less recoil so getting on the second bird early I would agree with that, with lighter loads it would reduce your muzzle flip. A lot of shooters saw their scores stay the same, or in a lot of cases improve, when they changed from 32 to 28 grams for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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