webber Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 After a considerable search I've found, and done the deal on a 110 County. Its an abandoned project, but already has much of what I was intending to do done. V8, and auto gearbox, plus suspension lift; so its a good start. I'm hoping to travel to Surrey tomorrow to collect the vehicle with a trailer. I've ammended my design a little, and have abandoned the idea of cutting a hole in the roof to shoot out of. Instead, I intend to fit a roof rack with foldong rails and rests, accessed via a ladder from the rear. I reckon that this will give a shooting height of 11 to 12 feet, far more advantageous for spotting rabbits and foxes. I'll keep a photo diary as the build goes on and post on PW. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 if you're planning on lying down on top, its seriously uncomfortable to lamp like it, we tried it with a fourtrak and it really didn't work. If you can't get a decent seated position a big sunroof is the next best option and lets you shoot 360 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 if you're planning on lying down on top, its seriously uncomfortable to lamp like it, we tried it with a fourtrak and it really didn't work. If you can't get a decent seated position a big sunroof is the next best option and lets you shoot 360 degrees. Still in the planning stages really; but was thinking along the lines of a rotary seat and lap strap. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 you'll find it lacks stability and a decent rifle rest. Best option if you have a workshop and its for an off road vehicle is to cut a serious sized hole in the roof and bend the alloy up 20mm or so and have a lid to fit over it. Then put a roofrack all round and pad it well. you'll be at an ideal height to get a secure rest and with a 110 you will have a decent rest on top of the roof above the drivers head. The plus point is its easy to duck down to stop the driver quietly. Of course one step further on would be to remove the entire back and fit seals a bit like the slightly gay essex lamping wagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Webber your friend 10vm (i think) should be able to help you on this as he nows his onoins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) Webber your friend 10vm (i think) should be able to help you on this as he nows his onoins 10WM certainly does know what he's doing; webber Edited May 28, 2011 by webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Whilst in Scotland last week with Mcf, we each bought a magazie that we wouldn't normally buy. I can't remember the title of either, (no, they wern't porno, before anyone starts). McF drew my attention to an article showing a shooting truck to whick someone had fitted in the rear a fork lift truck mast fitted with a suitable platform and rest; the article claimed that a height of 17 ft was attainable, although I wouldnt fancy touring the fields lashed to that, although it would be very handy as a highly mobile high seat. It was this article that inspired me to re think the hole in the roof idea. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 10WM certainly does know what he's doing; but I'm affraid that I no longer wish to associate with him. webber Thats a shame but he sure didnt like the farm boy who has never shot clays give a little bit of run for his money at hodnet. Not passing oxford on your travels TO SURREY as you could pop in for a brew. Cheers OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 when lamping the actual rest is more inportant than the actual height. If you have a lamper up high you increase the centre of gravity which on a raised landy is going to make it rock more. Then to get a rest for a rifle you need at minimum a bar a fair distance from the shooter and it is no where near as good as a flat roof. When standing in a landy you will still be shooting down at a good angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Lying down just isn't practical. You need to keep everything mobile such that driving and shooting is seamless. A hole in a roof can work if big enough and padded. But standing up for any length is hard work, especially over rough ground. I have lost count of the bruises and bashed ribs from lamping out of a sun roof even when ringed with foam pipe lagging. We think we have the most practical solution in "the bad boy". Nice height from the rear seats (which are ratchet strapped in and are removable) and shooting off the roof makes a stable platform. Getting in and out is easy enough off the back bumper but we are going to weld a ladder to the side with some ammo boxes. Apparently this is ME's job. Stable, mobile, comfortable and just plain old easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 I'm pleased you managed to get a v8 110. what size v8 is it ? I've been toying with the idea of putting a shooting hatch in the back of my 90 for lamping, or welding some mounting points onto the back of the crossmember to take a raised seat / standing area. Although I'm yet to investigate whether or not it would be sensible. Good luck with the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 The engine is 3.9 Litre ex Disco, as is the autobox. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 What about converting it to a full tilt or a truck cab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I wanted the County style seating to allow the vehicle to be used as a shoot bus if needs be, if I ever get a shoot again; also I intend to store my pigeon shooting gear in there most of the time to save me lugging it about. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Webber, I am looking forward to this thread taking shape and some good photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Like this http://www.kingtrailers.co.uk/product_pdfs...cationSheet.pdf sure I have seen them fitted to hard tops....might get a bit wobbly there are a few companies who do conversions for shooting on RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Like this http://www.kingtrailers.co.uk/product_pdfs...cationSheet.pdf sure I have seen them fitted to hard tops....might get a bit wobbly there are a few companies who do conversions for shooting on RR That looks ideal for a magnet within the trees for roost shooting ..... now where did that idea come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Whilst in Scotland last week with Mcf, we each bought a magazie that we wouldn't normally buy. I can't remember the title of either, (no, they wern't porno, before anyone starts).McF drew my attention to an article showing a shooting truck to whick someone had fitted in the rear a fork lift truck mast fitted with a suitable platform and rest; the article claimed that a height of 17 ft was attainable, although I wouldnt fancy touring the fields lashed to that, although it would be very handy as a highly mobile high seat. It was this article that inspired me to re think the hole in the roof idea. webber Webber the story of using a forlift mast brings back memories of after the storm of 87 when I drove a matbro only aged 13 and a farm hand in the bucket cutting branches sometimes it moved 5 or 6 feet he was cutting and then had to stop cutting until the boom swung back towards the branch. Very scary for him regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I'm now home from Camberley with the Landy, a big thank you to DKPhoto who did most of the driving. There's a lot to do, which will keep me busy. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Almost ready to set off ap narf. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 anglegrinder to the back section of roof personally its too heavy for my liking to be an ideal vehicle for lamping but bung some big tyres on it and you may be ok as far as not causing damage to fields in dampish conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Very nice trailer, What do you make of them? We've been considering an 18ft car-go for a few years, they are just a hell of a price to justify. Is your transfer case a disco one, or a defender one? If the former, you might have to think about changing to the 1.4, or go for a different r+p ratio if you go for taller boots. When I put 215/85 r16's on my v8 range rover from the 205's it really threw the gearing out, especially with the auto box. Granted it is a 3.5 efi. If you stick to the 32-33 inch range the the standard defener 1.4 t-case is just grand. If you want to go upto the 35 range, most people seem to think that going for a 4.11 r+p will be of benefit. Particularly with the way the v8 is a bit more freely frevving than the diesels you really don't want the gearing to be too long. It looks clean from the outside, have fun with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The trailer performed just fine, and is for hire if you're interested. I'm not sure what ratio the transfer box is, but will enquire. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Looking forward to this!! could always convert it to a crew cab and therefore retain 5 seats as well as having a small rear tub for a shooting set up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McF Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Just wondering if it will be ready for the Scotland trip next year if so, will we be leaving the quad behind? . Mcf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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