9mm blank firer - how do I sell ?

[Salop Matt]

Folks I have a 9mm blank firer (beretter pistol imitation) that used to be used for scaring birds. but I havent used it now in 5 years so want to sell it !

 

How do I go about this and what are the laws / VCRB details I would need to follow .

 

And also any idea what it might be worth ?

 

Either that or it gets the angle grinder and is scrapped !

 

Cheers

[Zapp]

The law you need to consult is the Violent Crimes Reduction Act of 2007. HERE is a link to the relevant part.

 

Here are a couple of pertinent sections:

 

Section 36 makes it an offence to:

 

 

Manufacture a realistic imitation firearm.

 

Modify an imitation firearm so it becomes a realistic imitation firearm.

 

Sell a realistic imitation firearm.

 

Bring a realistic imitation firearm in to Great Britain or cause one to be brought in to Great Britain.

 

A realistic imitation firearm is one which, for all intents and purposes, is indistinguishable from a real firearm. (A de-activated firearm is not a realistic imitation firearm, neither is an antique imitation). An imitation firearm that is not a realistic imitation firearm may be sold, manufactured, imported, etc. if it meets certain criteria, including principal colour, shape and size.

The principal colours are:

 

(a) bright red

( bright orange

© bright yellow

(d) bright green

(e) bright pink

(f) bright purple; and

(g) bright blue

And

 

Certain bodies will be permitted to purchase realistic imitation firearms from sellers for specific activities, which will include:

 

Use at theatrical performances, and in rehearsals, use in television production, use in film production and use in the organisation and holding of historical re-enactments.

 

So I reckon it is the angle grinder.

[Salop Matt]

Shame but angle gringer or gas axe it will be then.

[humperdingle]

Don't those regulations apply to retail sales?

 

If you want rid of it, PM me, mate.

[Imperfection]

Theres no law which prevents you from giving it away-you just cant get money for it.Might be a grey area,but im guessing you could also 'trade' something for it so techically no cash changes hands...

[Chris Bb]

If they're so illegal, how come you can buy ammunition without a licence, etc?

 

Another half baked anti gun law rushed through without thought.

 

I note that semi automatic pistols appear to be unavailable whereas revolvers can be obtained; personally, if on the wrong end of either I'd be equally scared and wouldn't question whether it was real or not.

 

I also note that imitation weapons are OK as long as they're in silly bright colours, have the Government never heard of matt black paint?

[njc110381]

Personally I'm waiting for the first unfortunate armed response chap to be shot with a real gun painted yellow so nobody takes any notice of it. It's a false security I think.

[Zapp]

Personally I'm waiting for the first unfortunate armed response chap to be shot with a real gun painted yellow so nobody takes any notice of it. It's a false security I think.

 

Yes, that is the first thing that occurred to me when the new law came in

[garden gun]

This law also affected the BB gun community. Initially BBs were going to be classed as imitaion firearms (they are very realistic) and banned completely. After much lobbying they were OKed, but to buy one you had to be over 18 and a member of a registered club. Had to shell out for youngests birthday pressie early before this came into effect as we did not want to stump up for membership and he was under 18!!

[Canis]

Personally I'm waiting for the first unfortunate armed response chap to be shot with a real gun painted yellow so nobody takes any notice of it. It's a false security I think.

 

 

I was discussing this with a gunsmith last night - given that I am led to believe that it is considered "best practice" by inner city gangs in this country to have their illegal handguns carried by children (who won't be subject to the mandatory 5 stretch for posession).

 

Given that children are likely to play with "toys" that may look a little like a gun but are brightly coloured the police probably won't e able to justify a stop and search on a Child playing with a "toy " until it is fired at someone /thing - it probably won' be the armed response chap - he won' have been called.

 

I give it perhaps a year before the even the thickest criminal mastermind mind gets working and works all the above out.

 

Wonder how long the even thicker polical mastermind realises that the solution is probably requiring the use of clear plastic?

[unclestuffy]

Theres no law which prevents you from giving it away-you just cant get money for it.Might be a grey area,but im guessing you could also 'trade' something for it so techically no cash changes hands...

 

Just be carefully because "exchange and barter" is still considered as a financial transaction even though there was no actual change of monies.

[mrbritish1976]

The possession of realistic imitation firearms and imitation firearms will not be affected by the VCR Act.

 

 

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/qa/289815/Is_m...llegal_gun.html

[J@mes]

"It is not an offence to possess, give or receive one (if you are 18 or over). You are therefore in the clear with your gun but when it becomes surplus to your requirements you must give it away, not sell it."

 

so you have to give it away..... You could always insist that the "receiver" buys a blank sheet of A4 off you for £X at the same time I guess!

[paulos]

You could always spray it bright orange and then sell it?

[Vince Green]

You could always spray it bright orange and then sell it?

My vote, poxy silly law anyway. You don't have to paint the whole gun just the end of the barrel. Henry Kranks are still selling blank firers anyway . What is the law?

Edited September 11, 2010 by Vince Green