David BASC Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 BASC tells MPs: “Gun laws should be simplified” Britain’s gun laws are overly complicated and little understood, MPs were told by the UK’s largest shooting organisation, the British Association for Shooting and Conservation (BASC). Giving evidence to the Home Affairs Select Committee at Westminster, BASC director of firearms Bill Harriman said the state of firearms law in the UK is “Very complicated and it’s a mess.” The Committee is conducting an enquiry into firearms law after the murders in Cumbria carried out by taxi driver Derrick Bird. Bill Harriman said: “I was pleased to be able to give evidence to MPs on behalf of BASC. It is important that they hear first hand some of the difficulties which our members encounter every day in the application of the UK’s firearms laws“. “Firearms law must do two things; it must protect public safety and the peace, and it must allow the continued lawful use of firearms without undue restrictions. At the moment the core of the legislation; the oversight of applicants and checks by the police are tough, well understood and robust. However with more than 30 pieces of legislation in operation, the details around the edges are muddled, sometimes obscure and problems are exacerbated because different constabularies interpret the law in different ways.” Also with Bill were Geof Doe from the NRA / NSRA and David Penn from the BSSC, thanks very much to those guys for thier help and support. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Were BASC and the other organisations there by invitation or by application. I would have thought that the CA would have been there given all that they claim to be doing for shooting recently. Well done to Bill and the others for getting the shooters points of view across. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Lets hope that logic and reason prevail over any kind emotional blackmail that was used so effectively after Hungerford and Dunblane Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Delegates are were by invitation. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Found this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...make-quick.html today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Found this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...make-quick.html today. I believe that answers webbers where were the CA and answers it with bells on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 The way it has been reported doesn't reflect at all well on legal firearm ownership. The reactionary '10 year olds with guns' has appeared in more than one place. Unfortunately the positive BASC press releases don't seem to get very far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Does anyone know how long this committee will be taking place for and how long the outcome will take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 The likely time scales are this: Witnesses will be called during October to give their view to the HACS, but their hearings may be delayed until after the official police report into the Cumbria shootings. No one knows yet who will be called but it will almost certainly include ACPO, the Home Office and the police, quite possibly representatives from the medical profession too, and again BASC and the shooting industry will be called, we would expect Doubtless he antis will be queuing up to vent their spleen BASC will attend every evidence session. After the party conference season BASC will be setting up meetings with every committee member. You should too if they are an MP in your constituency After the oral evidence is given the committee will produce its report and its probable this will be published in the Spring 2011. There will then be a parliamentary debate, probably late summer of autumn and the government will publish their response to the HASC report David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 After the party conference season BASC will be setting up meetings with every committee member. You should too if they are an MP in your constituency David David, Can you give us a list of committee members please? I have a feeling that my local MP is on the committee, and having contacted him in the past I know he's anti live quarry shooting but is fine with 'target' disciplines. Wouldn't harm to have another chat with him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Keith Vaz - chairman Lab Leicester East Nicola Blackwood - Con Oxford West Aidean Burley Con - Cannock chase Loraine Fulbrook - Con. S Ribble Julian Huppert - Lib Dem Cambs Mary McLeod Con Brentford Steve McCabe - Lab - Birmingham Selly Oak Alun Michael - Lab Cardif South Bridget Phillipson - Lab Houghton and Sunderland SOuth Mark Reckless - Con Rochchester & Stroud David Winnick - Lab - Walsall Noth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 how come so many of them are labour? surely that can't be a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Not all Labour MP's are agianst shooting! Remember the Tories banned pistol shooting If you looked at the video of Bill, David and Geoff giving evidence I think it fair to say that David Winnick and Bridget Phillipson posed the most 'anti shooting' questions in my oppinnion - but have a look and make up your own minds. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Not all Labour MP's are agianst shooting! Remember the Tories banned pistol shooting If you looked at the video of Bill, David and Geoff giving evidence I think it fair to say that David Winnick and Bridget Phillipson posed the most 'anti shooting' questions in my oppinnion - but have a look and make up your own minds. David Is there a link for the video? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Is there a link for the video? webber +1 Bridget Phillipson is the MP where my girlfriend lives so i could vicariously approach her Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Is there a link for the video? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Keith Vaz - chairman Lab Leicester EastNicola Blackwood - Con Oxford West Aidean Burley Con - Cannock chase Loraine Fulbrook - Con. S Ribble Julian Huppert - Lib Dem Cambs Mary McLeod Con Brentford Steve McCabe - Lab - Birmingham Selly Oak Alun Michael - Lab Cardif South Bridget Phillipson - Lab Houghton and Sunderland SOuth Mark Reckless - Con Rochchester & Stroud David Winnick - Lab - Walsall Noth Sorry for being picky but it is Mark Reckless MP for Rochester and Strood, Hopefully he doesn`t get too drunk again to take part, i think he learned his lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=6607 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyatt Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Steve McCabe - Lab - Birmingham Selly Oak He'd be my local rep, any thing I can put to him (in regards to this matter only!) let me know. Edit: Email sent from the BASC site to him. Edited September 16, 2010 by timearp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 He'd be my local rep, any thing I can put to him (in regards to this matter only!) let me know. Please take a look on the BASC web site re the HASC - loads on there - any questions or more advice let me know and I will get one of our politcal guys to give oyu a call if you like? David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyatt Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Please take a look on the BASC web site re the HASC - loads on there - any questions or more advice let me know and I will get one of our politcal guys to give oyu a call if you like? David Had a look at the BASC site (I always forget to for some reason!), sent him an email. I'll have a good read over the weekend and see what else I can do. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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