skyshooter Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 We have a rookery that the farmer asks us to cull a few every year. At the beginning we used .22 subs to good effect but have since decided to use airguns because of safety worries, but have found that they arent man enough for the job as some of the trees are v high and with a .22 you can get through small branches and still hit the rook. We don't want to fork out for FAC airguns and was wondering if anyone had tried CB caps for this purpose :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 CB caps aren't the most accurate in the best circumstances, let alone shooting through branches. No 22 is going to be good for shooting through branches. Small twigs are enough to deflect a bullet. Better off with a hushpower and 12 ga subs. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 We have a rookery that the farmer asks us to cull a few every year. At the beginning we used .22 subs to good effect but have since decided to use airguns because of safety worries, but have found that they arent man enough for the job as some of the trees are v high and with a .22 you can get through small branches and still hit the rook. We don't want to fork out for FAC airguns and was wondering if anyone had tried CB caps for this purpose i hope your not shooting up trees with a rimfire!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 You say that, but years ago it was accepted practise. Every time you hear of someone getting hit it's an old guy, probably a farmer, who let the shot go. This chap could have learned from said farmer but has now seen sense - don't have a go at him for things he can't change because he's clearly changed tactics as soon as he figured out it could be a problem. CB Longs are ok out of my rifle. Not as accurate as a standard LR bullet but they are usable at sensible ranges. I think they push about 30ft-lbs. Even a CB is going to hurt on the way down so make sure you have a fairly decent fallout zone. That said they're not going to travel like a LR bullet. Give them a try. If they don't work you haven't lost much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 There are also .22 shorts and longs to consider, possibly even shotshell, but I suspect unlikely. The caps have their uses, producing usually just over 30ft lb, they were available pointed or ball, I haven't used/seen any for years, I'm sure they are about somewhere but my locals don't carry them. ...... now then, what is all this I hear about you shooting birds out of the top of 100ft trees in the middle of an urban sprawl with a .22lr?? Go sit on the naughty step! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feaks Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I too have been looking for a lower powered alternative to put in the CZ, tried Z Langs (RWS) , CB short and yesterday tried CB longs. See if you can get a few off some one to try because my gun puts them all over the place even when rested at 20yds.One of the problems might be in the consistency of the powder charge as they all seem to have a few poppers in the boxes i've had. Might be better to stick to the airgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyshooter Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 There are also .22 shorts and longs to consider, possibly even shotshell, but I suspect unlikely. The caps have their uses, producing usually just over 30ft lb, they were available pointed or ball, I haven't used/seen any for years, I'm sure they are about somewhere but my locals don't carry them. ...... now then, what is all this I hear about you shooting birds out of the top of 100ft trees in the middle of an urban sprawl with a .22lr?? Go sit on the naughty step! No its not an urban sprawl its in the Lake District with the sea to one side and amountain on the other .22 rf has been used for 50 yrs 'safely' by the farmer, but I dont want to take the.0000001% chance of an accident. The land has been passed up to 7mm remington magnum, and I have an open ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 No its not an urban sprawl its in the Lake District with the sea to one side and amountain on the other .22 rf has been used for 50 yrs 'safely' by the farmer, but I dont want to take the.0000001% chance of an accident. The land has been passed up to 7mm remington magnum, and I have an open ticket. The response was in jest which appears to have passed you by, hence the whistling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) I've used CCI CB longs for a while now for tree and barn work, they seem ok to me for sub 40yd stuff, they're about 30gr @ 700ftps giving 30ft/lb at the muzzle, just be careful... Edited November 10, 2010 by GRAM71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) I've used CCI CB longs for a while now for tree and barn work, they seem ok to me for sub 40yd stuff, they're about 30gr @ 700ftps giving 30ft/lb at the muzzle, just be careful... Hi Gram71 Help me out here, I'll be honest, I have not put anything other than .22lr through mine for years, but I thought the Longs went up to around 90-100ft lb. Am I loosing the plot or can you get them down to 30ft lb Cheers Edit No sooner do I write it than I look again....what is a CB Long?? Edited November 10, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Hi Gram71 Help me out here, I'll be honest, I have not put anything other than .22lr through mine for years, but I thought the Longs went up to around 90-100ft lb. Am I loosing the plot or can you get them down to 30ft lb Cheers Hi dekers, the 22lr has quite a few variants, there are so many different types of ammo. The stuff i use is made by CCI and it's called CB long, i think they discharge purely from the primer or have very little powder in the case, on a bright day while zeroing at 30m i could see the bullet, it was just like an airrifle, very slow and reasonably safe as long as you're careful. just had a look at the case and they're 29gr @710ft per sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hi dekers I have some CB longs that only do 30ft lb we have tried them through the cronno and i also have some CB shorts that are doing 100ftlbs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 The CB shorts and CB longs are the same cartridge with the only difference being the l ength of the brass. They both use the sam 29 gr bullet and both use only the primer to push the bullet at 710. While each gun will vary, you're still looking at 30 ft-lb or thereabouts for both of them. A 22 short is going about 100 ft-lb. They are normally a 32 gr bullet at 900-1000 fps. Shorts are pretty useful if you gun likes them. Some guns with only a short chamber are pretty accurate with the true 22 short rounds. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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