My Spare Gun is a...

[Thunderbird]

I have a Remy 1100 as a 'spare' gun which a mate and I thoroughly put through its paces at a clay ground recently. It has a full choke and I was mostly using fast 7.5 size cartridges.

 

Anyway it was breaking the clays very well, I 'straighted' a few stands with it. My question is, bearing in mind it's full choke, if I used it on an average Sporting ground, would size 9s be better, the same, or worse?

[DSPUK]

If you are not on the clay it won't make an iota of difference.

 

Dave

[Gordon R]

Better - more pellets with 9s. They will only come up short on distant or edge on clays.

[Thunderbird]

It's an interesting question isn't it? I am a great believer in 'if you don't aim at the right bit of sky the clay won't break' and I'm sceptical of people who furiously change chokes or cartridges (then miss and make an excuse). But to be honest if using 9s on a full choke gun might help things then I might as well do it.

 

All my friends like shooting with the 1100 as a bit of fun for perhaps a second round after we go round with our O/Us.

[Bluebarrels]

Too many shooters play the choke game i personally shoot with cylinder for most of my shooting,and it seems to suit me,i have confidence in the gun and in myself i think swapping chokes every stand just confuses the issue BB

[Thunderbird]

In my O/U I shoot CYL and 1/4 (it's fixed so I have no choice). Average scores between 39-44/50. When I shot with the full choke gun I scored the same!

[turbo33]

Too many shooters play the choke game i personally shoot with cylinder for most of my shooting,and it seems to suit me,i have confidence in the gun and in myself i think swapping chokes every stand just confuses the issue BB

 

Maybe you should change chokes between stands as you only got 82% at the Hampshire meet( I hate show offs!!) Now onto more serious things, when can I book that lesson, or shall I just crawl into a corner

[sitsinhedges]

Surely if it's full choke you can afford to use a larger pellet

[utectok]

Size of pellet determines range of kill zone

 

choke determines spread

 

number of pellets determines pattern

 

There is quite a lot more to it but in simple terms this is what you need to know IMHO

[Thunderbird]

Hmmm, so if I didn't notice a great deal of difference in my shooting between an open choked gun and a full choked gun, when I missed a clay *I* missed it, period.

 

What I was wondering really was that if I used 9s it would effectively create a wider spread to off-set the full choke. The places I shoot tend to be woodland layouts or farmer's fields so there are not many long-range clays.

[utectok]

"What I was wondering really was that if I used 9s it would effectively create a wider spread to off-set the full choke"

 

err no it makes no diffrence see my last post.

[Thunderbird]

Yeah that's why I said 'was wondering' not 'am wondering' .

 

Thanks. Interesting stuff.

[COACH]

I`v done a lot of testing on chokes and different cartridges and have found that patterns through a full choke with a 28g No 9s are very broken and uneven at range. 6/7s are best.

Edited November 26, 2010 by COACH

[brian28]

Used to shoot with a guy named bob foster allways used a remmy full choke .

shot 7 1/2 shot on everything, sadly he passed away

[poontang]

The places I shoot tend to be woodland layouts or farmer's fields so there are not many long-range clays.

 

There's so much information on chokes and cartridges on the net, and most people will have differing opinions as to the best combination to use. You could spend forever and a day reading and trying to decide what's best, but it really all boils down to what you're comfortable with, and what does the job for you. From the sound of it you're shooting fairly close/mid distance clays? I doubt there'll be anything there that couldn't be killed with 1/4 choke and #8 shot. Bear in mind using full choke and #9 shot will only result in a tighter pattern with less margin for error. Try shooting a round of skeet with full choke, and then 1/4 choke and you'll see the difference. I'll wager you'll miss a few more with a tighter choke.

[Thunderbird]

Thanks for the additional advice guys.

 

I shall stick with 7.5s on the Remy. I don't use it often, as I said it's a fun gun to use so sometimes we take it round for round no. 2.

 

Interesting really, as my O/U is a very open choke so it's a case of one end of the scale to the other.

[throdgrain]

Nowadays I shoot with a 30 year old Rem 1100 all the time. It's just kind of ended up that way

 

I've played the choke game too, in my Benelli I used to use 1/4 choke for clays, and 1/2 for decoying. When I bought my Remington 870, it had a fixed 1/2 choke, I spent £300 on a new multichoke barrel. I had money in those days ... Anyway, nowadays I use the 870 purely for decoying, and the 1100 purely for clays. Guess what choke is fitted into my £300 multichoke 870 barrel? Yes, that's right, a 1/2

 

As far as the 1100 goes, it has a fixed skeet choke, and despite my previous worrys I dont think it's stopped me hitting (or missing) any clay I've shot at in the last year.

 

I'm leaving it as it is

[Thunderbird]

I bought the Remy because it was very cheap and in great condition with a possible view to selling it on, however it would be a good rough shooting gun and now it is proven as a good spare clay gun.

 

So I'm keeping it. By the way you can get the Viton seals on ebay for about 50p at the moment.

[throdgrain]

Heh I bought 2 Rem ones when I bought the gun, £5.00 each :(

 

It's still using the one it came with though, another internet "fact" shot down ...

[Thunderbird]

When I got mine the seal was knackered and I was disappointed as it would not cycle. Gave the whole gun a good clean, poked the gas ports out and got new seals.

 

Good as new now. In fact it cycles things like Eley Olympics 28s really well.