demonwolf444 Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 well guys i have a BSA Mercury which has zero finish left on the metal, i have had the idea for a while to blue it and make it nice, is this possible and i had the idea of using perma blue ? is it any good ? does the stuff work ? can anyone give me advice about home blueing ect , if i used disposable gloves and took my time with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I have a kit and intend to do it. The advice I was given was it's all about the preparation, you need to clean them, and again and again. Get every trace of grease off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 Have used caseys gun blu and it is a good product,as with any thing its all in the preperation the barrell must be rubbed down and look like smooth chrome and then degreased (i used sugarsoap)before applying any bluing,follow the instructions,apply with small sponge,DONT use sparingly and wipe any runs as you go,go over it TWICE and then rinse with clean water and REPEAT,if you want a thorough job do it again then buff dry and then buff with oil,my bottle did three guns ,if you muck it up you can always do it again as long as you have rubbed it properly in the first place,otherwise you will have to start from fresh,i takes me 5 hours to do a double barrell shot gun from start to finish. Good luck and dont skimp on the prep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 The better the prep,the better the finish, you need to get all the old blue,rust and grease off. Wire wool is good for getting it real smooth. I have never had that much success with cold bluing techniques and never get that deep black effect of hot blueing. Give it a go, if it doesnt work out well then just rub down and get it hot blued, I don't think its that expensive if you do all the time consuming prep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 mines "spekled" with rust, the stock needs re doing - so im going to get the "delux" kit (£26)that has their stock finishing and re blueing stuff, gonna spend a long time sanding it down(stock) , and degreasing (barrel) ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 All cold blues are a sorry substitute for the proper job. They work by coating the steel in a thin layer of copper or suchlike and this is what actually becomes blued, followed by a nice coat of rust some time later Some manufacturers try and sell a thin varnish as a top coat to stop this happening. The only way to get a proper job is to get the Yellow Pages out and look for 'Metal Finishers', and find one that does proper industrial hot blacking. If you prepare the gun they will do a barrel or a cylinder properly for £10-15 and it will last. An alternative is to get a gunshop such as Sandwell Field Sports to have this done for you at a similarly reasonable cost. Sorry to be negative but so called cold blue is one of my pet hates and it never comes up to expectations unless they are very very low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 thing is its a springer gun - would i have to take it all appart ie take the spring out ect.. also could i spray paint it balck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 im not trying to make it look amazing just look better than it does.. which is dreadfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Dont paint it you will only end up rubbing it all down again a waste of effort, it will look **** very quickly , as allready stated its all in the prep ,i used perma blue and then supa blue but was not getting that deep blue that i wanted , What trick i found was repeat the process several times as norm and then i did a couple of times with the PASTE it really did the trick a lovely deep blue maybe because it does not run off ? it worked a treat for me on these last 2 410's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 youve pursuaded me, its just going to take a long time i fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Prep is the key thing and take your time, I did my single 12s barrel but I think I oiled it properly afterwards as I have a small patch of surface rust so I gotta do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I've done quite a few with the Birchwood Casey Kits, & I've had mixed results. My Bruno Mod-2 came out tip top, & still is 3yr later, yet at the other end I done a Sabel SxS 12g & it looks naff now...it's all down to the steel, some blue better than others. As stated, prep is the key, the better it is, the better the finish, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) I did my hw77k with the birchwood casey ,as stated it was all in the prep .I did however warm up the barrel with my blow torch before the blue went on and this give me a good first coat.I then lightly wire wooled the barrel again and then warmed with the blow torch ,then rinsed with warm water dryed it then repeated again and again without the heat ...........it turned out pretty well with a nice deep blue . hope this helps . Regards Darren Edited January 4, 2011 by mtbarrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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