rumple Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 I currently have a HW77k, but I've been thinking of getting a PCP. The only problem I see with a PCP is charging them up, so I would guess I'd need a diving bottle as well. Does anyone know of somewhere reliable in the Southport (Merseyside) area that can refill a bottle? I would probably want to get a manual pump as well as an emergency back-up. What I don't understand, is that I have a garage style air compressor, but have heard that these won't have the pressure required to charge a rifle, so how can a hand pump manage? Do they really produce higher pressures than a compressor? Thanks for any pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 www.ndiver.com - Appley La North, Wigan - 012572 54444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumple Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 www.ndiver.com - Appley La North, Wigan - 012572 54444 Thanks, that not too far away. Have you used them? Any idea what they would charge for a refill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTsHoT-10 Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Hi, i have a webley pump and have no problem filling my S400 classic, very quick (about 3 mins) and easy. Not as quick as a bottle but is a lot easier to transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 £3.50 for a 12ltr bottle don't go to Mikes dive in Warrington charges £5 and under fills them. 6 times running even after complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAGUE Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I currently have a HW77k, but I've been thinking of getting a PCP. The only problem I see with a PCP is charging them up, so I would guess I'd need a diving bottle as well. Does anyone know of somewhere reliable in the Southport (Merseyside) area that can refill a bottle? I would probably want to get a manual pump as well as an emergency back-up. What I don't understand, is that I have a garage style air compressor, but have heard that these won't have the pressure required to charge a rifle, so how can a hand pump manage? Do they really produce higher pressures than a compressor? Thanks for any pointers. Hi rumple - what PCP you thinking of getting?, the reason i ask is pcp's with say a 400cc buddy bottle can be a pain in the ***** to fill from a pump but others like my Ultra are a dodle - anyway seeing as i'm in southport aswell you are welcome to nip round and try out my hills pump before deciding if you want to buy one. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdigger Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 there is a diving shop near the docks in preston , i have a pump for my ultra and fill it every time i get back , as long as it is not completely empty it dosnt take long to fill but it dos get the heart rate up so you cold think of it as exercise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumple Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Hi rumple - what PCP you thinking of getting?, the reason i ask is pcp's with say a 400cc buddy bottle can be a pain in the ***** to fill from a pump but others like my Ultra are a dodle - anyway seeing as i'm in southport aswell you are welcome to nip round and try out my hills pump before deciding if you want to buy one. Steve. Hi Steve, Not sure which. I'd love a Daystate Huntsman Classic or an Air Arms S410/510, but the finances won't stretch to that at the present time, so just weighing up the options and costs of all the things I'll need on top of buying a new gun, such as bottle, pump etc. I'm only just discovering the range of modern PCPs available, after coming back to air gunning after many years away from the sport. So I'm keeping an eye on the second hand market and making a mental note of makes and prices. I appreciate your offer to try out the pump, it would be great to try it once I've got a rifle. And nice to hear from someone else in Southport. Gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumple Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 there is a diving shop near the docks in preston , i have a pump for my ultra and fill it every time i get back , as long as it is not completely empty it dosnt take long to fill but it dos get the heart rate up so you cold think of it as exercise Thanks. So another question then, is it ok to leave a PCP filled when not in use? And is there a maximum recommended time before it should be vented (if that is the right terminology)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks. So another question then, is it ok to leave a PCP filled when not in use? And is there a maximum recommended time before it should be vented (if that is the right terminology)? You should always leave it filled, even when its not going to be used for a few months. Oring seals like to stay under pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdigger Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks. So another question then, is it ok to leave a PCP filled when not in use? And is there a maximum recommended time before it should be vented (if that is the right terminology)? a diver friend told me that all pressured air vessels should be kept with pressure in as it helps stop them corrodding and failing the test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 a diver friend told me that all pressured air vessels should be kept with pressure in as it helps stop them corrodding and failing the test Quite right, breathing air is filtered and quite dry so leaving a cylinder with a pressure in it, will keep any damp air forming rust on the inside, (if it is a steel tank) Regarding failing a test, it does take a lot for a tank to fail. My diving twins are 10 years old and as clean a new pin inside because the are filled off my compressor with 3 filters on it. If you drain a tank down, the o ring will not have any pressure against it. If left for some time it might leak when refilled. Simple answer is to keep pressure in it. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumple Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Thanks guys for the replies. I really appreciate you all passing on all the useful information. Having been away from the airgun scene for some years, so much has changed and I feel there's a lot to catch up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdigger Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Thanks guys for the replies. I really appreciate you all passing on all the useful information. Having been away from the airgun scene for some years, so much has changed and I feel there's a lot to catch up on. you are very welcome i had a break for 20 years (the exwife was vegi) and air gunning has come on light years . i have a shoot near martin mere pm me if you fancy a walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 there is a dive centre in carlton street liverpool just after you come out of crosby off the dock road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Most Air Gun Shops have cut off Compressors Which cut of around 302 Bar - Safety Depending how empty it was when filled - if low it get's hot On Cooling it looses a Few Bar If Filled @ a Dive Shop - They Mostly fill from Storege Tanks which is slower Fill Reason for a Better Fill But as some are aware UK Diving is Dying fast and Dive Shops closing Down Have been asked to get Compressor to Fill bottles @ Lea Valley Two issues - Need 3 Phrase Supply - Power is from a 14 KV Generator and Insurance would never cover it - BOB/R Edited January 17, 2011 by Clubshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman_lancs Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) Air fills are available from our double filtered compressor which is checked every day and serviced to the highest standards. 5 Litre - £2.00 10-12 Litre - £3.00 15 Litre - £3.50 The Delph Diver Training Centre Halfpenny Lane Off Bannister Lane Eccleston Nr Chorley Lancashire PR7 5PR thats where i top my bottle up fills to 300 bar £5 for my bottle Edited January 31, 2011 by iceman_lancs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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