30-6 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Am I correct in thinking that all CZ - 452's actions are the same, as I've seen a STYLE model with AMERICAN stamped on the action. I would assume they run out of plain actions that they would normally finish off as a STYLE, and had to use one with the AMERICAN logo. I also noticed that the synthetic stock was slightly different to older ones in as much as (a) it had a stipple grip on the fore end, and (B) a slight gap between the barrel and fore end. The guy reckoned it was barrel float, but I thought plastic stocks didn't have any float. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I don't know why, but every time I post and try to do the letter b in brackets, a smiley comes out instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Am I correct in thinking that all CZ - 452's actions are the same, as I've seen a STYLE model with AMERICAN stamped on the action. I would assume they run out of plain actions that they would normally finish off as a STYLE, and had to use one with the AMERICAN logo. I also noticed that the synthetic stock was slightly different to older ones in as much as (a) it had a stipple grip on the fore end, and (B) a slight gap between the barrel and fore end. The guy reckoned it was barrel float, but I thought plastic stocks didn't have any float. There are at least 3 different plastic/synthetic stock on the 452 as I have had them all. None of my Style/Silhouette float, not even the latest with the effect on grip and forend. If anyone says they float just lean it on a Bipod and see what happens. The actions on all the 452 .22lr/Mach II and HMR/WMR are the same as far as I'm aware! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 AFAIK the action on all the models is the American, my Silhouette for instance has American stamped on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 My Silhouette HMR says American but the LR doesn't Screws are in different places too, LR stock is completely smooth whereas HMR has slight stipple to it. HMR is nearest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 My Silhouette HMR says American but the LR doesn't Screws are in different places too, LR stock is completely smooth whereas HMR has slight stipple to it. HMR is nearest ohhh look....gun porn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 CZ452 22LR actions are all the same in all the 'variants' ie they all take the same magazine. cheers shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 ohhh look....gun porn Yeh, Hot Twins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Yeh, Hot Twins! You could mention something about some 'butt' action but maybe best not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 There are at least 3 different plastic/synthetic stock on the 452 as I have had them all. None of my Style/Silhouette float, not even the latest with the effect on grip and forend. If anyone says they float just lean it on a Bipod and see what happens. The actions on all the 452 .22lr/Mach II and HMR/WMR are the same as far as I'm aware! ATB! Come on Dekers the same can be said of nearly all sporter stocked factory rifles they do tend to close up on the forearm when you lean on them a little "free float" donates a clearance between stock and barrel- pressure bedding being the exact oposite. My CZ .22 lr has a dovetail screw attachment on the length of the barrel the HMR does not and i have thought many times about synthetically bedding it and opening up the float a little (it shoots as good as wind allows though so i have never bothered). The .22 is very, very accurate though can suffer from a tad of zero shift and i am sure this is due to the wood stock reacting to temprature and humidity and effecting the pull or harmonics of the barrel. I think the mini mauser CZ action is basically the same in any variant of the rimfires they do (respective of scale in the magnums) and only a little different in the C/F range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Come on Dekers the same can be said of nearly all sporter stocked factory rifles they do tend to close up on the forearm when you lean on them a little "free float" donates a clearance between stock and barrel- pressure bedding being the exact oposite. My CZ .22 lr has a dovetail screw attachment on the length of the barrel the HMR does not and i have thought many times about synthetically bedding it and opening up the float a little (it shoots as good as wind allows though so i have never bothered). The .22 is very, very accurate though can suffer from a tad of zero shift and i am sure this is due to the wood stock reacting to temprature and humidity and effecting the pull or harmonics of the barrel. I think the mini mauser CZ action is basically the same in any variant of the rimfires they do (respective of scale in the magnums) and only a little different in the C/F range Perhaps I left that open to interpretation, the Style and Silhouette do not have floating barrels, and I suspect it would involve a lot of work to make them free floating. The plastic stock is machined pretty much to FIT the metalwork, and because of its flexibility it will come away from the metalwork of push hard against it in different situations. In making the suggestion about the bipod I was simply highlighting this issue. A properly floated barrel will not hit the stock, even on the Bipod! If it does then it isn't floating! My CZ American WMR with Walnut stock IS free floating now, even on the bipod! Perhaps some manufacturers will suggest they have a floating barrel, even on very flexible stocks, as it happens CZ make no claim that they have a floating barrel on the Style/Silhouette as far as I'm aware! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 well even an out of the box remmington PSS in the HS stock as supplied will contact if pressed on a bipod and thats quite a sturdy old stock Dekers a std Sako 75 hunter will, Tika 595 will. Its a simple job to open up free float most leave the factory with just enough clearance to call free float, once you bed the action in though 99% of the time you still need to open them up some. Its done tight for esthetics and to disguise movement in std wood forearms IMO. As for the CZ i hate the plastic stocks on all guns the only advantage they have is they look ugly from day one rather than after a few seasons. composite stocks are a complete differnt ball game, love them to bits! Hold zero better the lot. MC Millan and Wild dog both do after market replacements and looking at the Boyd laminate thumbhole on the new CZ yesterday its a deffo move forwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 well even an out of the box remmington PSS in the HS stock as supplied will contact if pressed on a bipod and thats quite a sturdy old stock Dekers a std Sako 75 hunter will, Tika 595 will. Its a simple job to open up free float most leave the factory with just enough clearance to call free float, once you bed the action in though 99% of the time you still need to open them up some. Its done tight for esthetics and to disguise movement in std wood forearms IMO. As for the CZ i hate the plastic stocks on all guns the only advantage they have is they look ugly from day one rather than after a few seasons. composite stocks are a complete differnt ball game, love them to bits! Hold zero better the lot. MC Millan and Wild dog both do after market replacements and looking at the Boyd laminate thumbhole on the new CZ yesterday its a deffo move forwards Kent Come on... We can both go on all day quoting examples, my T3 Hunter IS free floating, straight out of the box, but if you stood a Cavalry regiment in it then perhaps it wouldn't be, my WMR IS now, but took some work! If the act of mounting a rifle on a bipod loses Float then in my book that rifle does NOT have a Floating barrel! My view, my opinion! Frankly I don't give a hoot about any rifle or manufacturer, or what they want to call it, a FREE floating barrel is just that, not one that bounces about and contacts the stock all over the place, that is a recipe for inconsistency and inaccuracy!! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 My Silhouette HMR says American but the LR doesn't Screws are in different places too, LR stock is completely smooth whereas HMR has slight stipple to it. HMR is nearest hi colster i got same 2 guns you got just got my hmr, how do you get on with yours i cant wait to get out with mine colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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