mark s Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 thinking of working a clumber does anyone on here work / own one any info greatly appreciated cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 There are a couple that come along to one of the shoots I beat on. Big and slow. The "Clumbersomes" are not fast flashy dogs like spingers or cockers, but slow steady dogs that plod along quite happily. Good in the beating line as they don't tend to pull forward as much as the other types can want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstevouk Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Have a read here >>>>> working clumber spaniels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I have one Pm me if theirs anything you want too know xxxxSuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stiv24 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 I was looking into getting a Clumber 6 years ago and was put off by their lazy and hard to train reputation. However, on a shoot towards the end of the season John Zurick was their with his pack of Clumbers, dogs and bitches ranging from 2 to 10 years old. The way they worked was a sheer joy to watch and according to him if you buy a pup from a proven line then your laughing. I have a 6 yo and a 2 yo ESS and my next pup will be one of his. Have a look at www.sedgehurstclumbers.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 John and Debbie's dogs are fantastic, but probably atypical for clumbers. If you get one of theirs they're more like cockers or springers, fast and stylish. Most clumbers are bigger heavier slower beasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 The bigger heavier ones are the show breeds Working ones are nothing like this I also have a springer both of my dogs are age five My clumber may not be as fast as the springer but he works just as hard and at the end of the shoot he still as has much bounce as the springer left in him you will find that clumbers will learn at thier own pace and yes they can be stuborn . But slow no the one good point I have found with mine is his good at flushing out game where the springer will be fast and carry on if the clumber thinks their something in the hedgerow he will not move on untill the bird has took flight he also has a good nose for winged birds and will not give up untill that bird is found also with their thick coats they are excellent dogs for the undergrowth. They do take time too train even now my five year old dog still think his a big pup But I think that is down too more me then the breed My one advice is you really will have too put the time in with him most probley more then you would a lab or springer But if your prepared too do that then you will have a one in the millon gundog and a very loyal one at that and after you have finished training yours I send you mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 what would they be like in the beating line , slow and steady or too slow , never seen one in the flesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 They may not be as fast as a cocker or springer but slow they are not The thing with a clumber is most people if they have seen one it most probs a show one working ones are more lean and stronger built for a medium size dog I would say they and not much far behind the lab for body strength they are also a very good nature dog At the end of a days work my dog is still full of bounce and ready for more xxxxxsuzy The only thing that do get too them is the heat of summer And that's only because of their thick coats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I was looking into getting a Clumber 6 years ago and was put off by their lazy and hard to train reputation. However, on a shoot towards the end of the season John Zurick was their with his pack of Clumbers, dogs and bitches ranging from 2 to 10 years old. The way they worked was a sheer joy to watch and according to him if you buy a pup from a proven line then your laughing. I have a 6 yo and a 2 yo ESS and my next pup will be one of his. Have a look at www.sedgehurstclumbers.co.uk Ace of a testimonial as was the one above about behaviour in the beating line and count me in as a believer. But if the Clumbers are running low on supply, you might want to seek out their cousin ye olde Sussex. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 You live in sussex? im looking for a shooting buddy if you are intersted?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Actually, I live in Kent - Kent, Delaware, USA - and as in the UK, Sussex is the next county over, just a jaunt away. Just like the dog above, a Sussex spaniel, jaunts away when the spirit moves her. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Cracker Is the Sussex a popular breed in the USA xxxxSuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Go for it - They are a great dog. Mine's coming up 18 months and is as willing as they come - Very biddable and excellent as a family dog as well. Will find some piccies later. Another shout for the Sedghurst bloodlines - Debbie and Jon, working with the Working Clumber Spaniel Society (http://www.workingclumber.co.uk/) are gradually breeding out all the deficiencies bred into them by the crufts mob - Hip and eye scores are excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Cracker Is the Sussex a popular breed in the USA xxxxSuzy No, Mrs Sweepy, except for what the show fancy have turned it into - a hirsute little thing of sawn-off leg. Think Cousin Itt of the Addams Family. Very few Sussex workers - and they, like Clumbers, are imported from the UK. American Clumbers are perhaps the most betrayed breed of all by the show fancy - they weigh nigh on 100 pounds and can barely put one paw in front of the other for mobility. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Same here Cracker The first clumber i can across was a show one. Thick set short legs and a face that look like it had been hit by a bus. It was also bad tempered(the owner had too hold it mouth while i look at it )and its breathing was very heavy. Too move it she even had too carry it as it didnt like too much exercise. And this was a show dog top of its class :blink: The working clumber society has really turn this breed around and if your picking a dog then like Fat cat said the Sedgehurst bloodline is what you want. Not very good pics but these will give you a rough idea what sort of build these dogs are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 xxxxSuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevel Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 As Mrs Sweepy has stated, working Clumbers are far from lumbering, drooling, slobs but really intelligent, hard working dogs. Do these look fat and slow Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz h Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have a 16 month old Clumber bitch, not much bigger than my springers, solidly built, agile and will bust any cover. Still quit immature, but a pleasure to be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwen3513 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 they are the best looking clumbers I have ever seen, it is great to see a dog fulfilling its role, i have only met big clumbers before and was a bit put off by the lumbering stlye but these have converted me. thanks jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Heres my clumber Daisy - full working pedigree Thinks nothing of jumping a good sized fence and will work all day long If anyone is serious about them speak to Debbie & John Zurcih at Sedgehurst Clumber Spaniels as they have done wonders for the breed archi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 I was thinking about a clumber but could find much out. What are they like in cover will they enter ok? and what about water?will the enter do they tend to like water? due to there size would they be ok for the odd 1 or 2 days wild fowling a year on top of the other game days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 My clumber bitch will face any cover and it doesnt tend to faze them as they have thick coats. They also tend to be good in water as with the size of the paws they tend to make very strong swimmers. Mine has often gone out 60-100 yards in a large open windswept gravel pit to pick geese. They will be ideal for the odd wildfowl trip. If you want to have a look at a some then google working clumber society or sedgehurst clumbers and speak to Debbie Zurich as she will be able to put you in contact with someone who is local to you so you can have a demo or can advise of the training days they put on etc so you can take a look at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 My clumber bitch will face any cover and it doesnt tend to faze them as they have thick coats. They also tend to be good in water as with the size of the paws they tend to make very strong swimmers. Mine has often gone out 60-100 yards in a large open windswept gravel pit to pick geese. They will be ideal for the odd wildfowl trip. Now that's what I like to hear about a working spaniel. You also got the coat and paws properly credited, archi, but it's the gob on 'em that's "uber alle." Them heftier spaniels are also good at "retriever practice" for real retriever puppies - when they ain't working on their own retrieving. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 what sort of price are you looking at paying for a clumber puoppy from working lines?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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