djgeoff Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) The farmer of the land I shoot as asked me to shoot the german shepards if i see any on his land. His words were ' if you see those b....y german shepards on my land shoot the b.....s everyone one is fed up of them round here, they have injured some of my live stock, they have attacked people using public footpath, attacked other dogs, they are dam right nasty, if they see you they will go for you' we are fed up of asking the owner to control his dogs, they come from the small holding next door ( 2 fields away). can someone tell me where i stand with this? I dont want to break any laws but at the same time wish to keep the farmer happy. I have a dog myself and I would prefer not to shoot one, but where do I stand if i am confronted by one or more of these nasty critters, I have been informed they attack as a pair, and reason to believe they may have been used as guard dogs in a scrap yard. Anyone got any advise regards geoff Edited February 18, 2011 by djgeoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenix Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Theres a BASC guide on this type of thing http://www.basc.org.uk/download.cfm/docid/9F65FF5E-4A24-4411-9040F0825D4B8B8C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 thanks ive just spotted a thread further down i will look at both ta very much for ur quick reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 ive read the BASC info quite clear on the subject, but no mention if dogs attack me. what do i do? no where to run, you are not expected to let them tear you apart are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 WHy is it that everyone wants to start shooting dogs? You cannot shoot a dog because of something it may or may not have done in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Sounds like people in the area are having problems with them worrying live stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 WHy is it that everyone wants to start shooting dogs? bizarre isn't it, ok these dogs are they strays or do they have an owner? if they have an owner don't get involved unless you witness them attacking stock when you are within your rights with a shotgun to shoot them, however make sure you do shoot them and not injure them. With an FAC gun you need a protection of livestock condition to be legal. If they attack you then you probably have less right to shoot them than if they were attacking livestock if they are strays then I would shoot them if they have an owner then it is different. Basically normally it really isn't worth the agravation as it is your license at stake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 WHy is it that everyone wants to start shooting dogs? You cannot shoot a dog because of something it may or may not have done in the past. I don't really want to shoot dogs, that is the point of my questions the farmer has requested it due to injury to his live stock, yes i suppose it would be in the past but as i shoot weekends and he may have seen the dogs attacking in the week, and by the sound of it its the same dogs everytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I don't really want to shoot dogs, that is the point of my questions the farmer has requested it due to injury to his live stock, yes i suppose it would be in the past but as i shoot weekends and he may have seen the dogs attacking in the week, and by the sound of it its the same dogs everytime. Then ask yourself why he hasn't shot them when he has seen them attacking his livestock? If it is the same dogs everytime and it has happened more than once I would say he is looking for someone else to do it to save him any aggro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) bizarre isn't it, ok these dogs are they strays or do they have an owner? if they have an owner don't get involved unless you witness them attacking stock when you are within your rights with a shotgun to shoot them, however make sure you do shoot them and not injure them. With an FAC gun you need a protection of livestock condition to be legal. If they attack you then you probably have less right to shoot them than if they were attacking livestock if they are strays then I would shoot them if they have an owner then it is different. Basically normally it really isn't worth the agravation as it is your license at stake they have an owner, farmer has been to see him and asked him to keep his dogs under control and off his land..... this has no affect, and as to me seeing them i would have to answer no to that, its the farmer that has seen them do it, its a sticky one isn't it Edited February 18, 2011 by djgeoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgeoff Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Then ask yourself why he hasn't shot them when he has seen them attacking his livestock? If it is the same dogs everytime and it has happened more than once I would say he is looking for someone else to do it to save him any aggro yeh you could be right there, think i will say i have not seen them around, if i do see them worrying or harming his stock them i wil have have a re think cheers for all your help PW users Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 bizarre isn't it, ok these dogs are they strays or do they have an owner? if they have an owner don't get involved unless you witness them attacking stock when you are within your rights with a shotgun to shoot them, however make sure you do shoot them and not injure them. With an FAC gun you need a protection of livestock condition to be legal. If they attack you then you probably have less right to shoot them than if they were attacking livestock if they are strays then I would shoot them if they have an owner then it is different. Basically normally it really isn't worth the agravation as it is your license at stake in my conditions it says "the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans" two ruddy great dogs coming at me KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 in my conditions it says "the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans" two ruddy great dogs coming at me KW yep that should cover the use of the gun but the legal side of it you are entitled to shoot them when worrying livestock but I'm yet to see anywhere it mentions humans, at which point you have to just know how to word things livestock wise. In this case the farmer may not have a sgc etc I still stick to the advice only do it if you see them worrying livestock and you will need something decent to shoot them with, injure them and they get home and you end up in all sorts of agro. Best option is to make sure every incident gets reported to the police as then there is a paper trail that they are worrying livestock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 personally,id get farmer to ring police and report dogs and owner,then basically inform them if the dogs are seen again worrying livestock you have been asked to destroy them,then get it in writing of your farmer that he has given you permission to destroy any dogs worrying livestock. should cover all bases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax55 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 if they were coming in to attack me they'd be shot without hesitation if they were on my land repetedly after speaking to the owner they'd be shot without hesitation. I look at this as doing the owners a favour. i could do nothing and they attack someone , me , or my family and the owner gets charged for keeping dangerous dogs , not to mention a good hiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Dog lover or not, if two GSD are coming in to attack me, they'll get a barrel each. Period. I'd rather argue the toss with the law than have my face sewn back together in casualty thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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