scuta Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hi, Have noticed the post on John Blowkett blue printing. Does anyone know of anyone or anywhere where I can get the same type of thing done for an HW100? Have read about BTAS, however that seems like a total refit (& not cheap!) i am desperate to get what appears to be an expensive dog of a Friday afternoon gun sorted! (& yes I'm fed up of hearing that HW100's are infallible and it must be me!) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 HW100's are infallible so it must be you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 what exactly are you expecting after the tune, are you have issues, inacuracy problems IMO its not worth the expence for sporting air rifles, and over rated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuta Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Erm........a consistently accurate rifle!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 is the barrel tight as i hear there are issues with it coming loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 as a hw100 owner i find the above posts heresy these guns work at all times with germanic precision have you tried removing the barrel band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danimal Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 take the cylinder out and make sure that the grub screw under the barrel is tight enough to stop it spinning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Steve Pope has lots of tuning options and isn't ott on price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
settinsail Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I`ve spoken to a couple of places and they both said the same thing, the HW100s is pretty good as it is why mess with it. Have to say I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I`ve spoken to a couple of places and they both said the same thing, the HW100s is pretty good as it is why mess with it. Have to say I agree. 99.9% of them may well be perfect but if his has a problem and is inaccurate then why not get it looked at? However, there are things to check before any expensive modifications are carried out, such as testing with many different pellets, checking everything is tight and clean, O rings not perished etc. If that doesn't improve accuracy then there may be a problem......or too much is being expected of the rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuta Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Thanks for that. The rifle is 18 months old & has gone back to Hull twice for different faults, so am going to initially discount perished seals (would hope they might have picked up on them. I have checked the barrel - no movement at all & removed the o-ring from the barrel band so the barrel is free floating. I will list the pellets tried so far & see if anyone can recommend any other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Thanks for that. The rifle is 18 months old & has gone back to Hull twice for different faults, so am going to initially discount perished seals (would hope they might have picked up on them. I have checked the barrel - no movement at all & removed the o-ring from the barrel band so the barrel is free floating. I will list the pellets tried so far & see if anyone can recommend any other options. try H&N field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Hi, Have noticed the post on John Blowkett blue printing. Does anyone know of anyone or anywhere where I can get the same type of thing done for an HW100? Have read about BTAS, however that seems like a total refit (& not cheap!) i am desperate to get what appears to be an expensive dog of a Friday afternoon gun sorted! (& yes I'm fed up of hearing that HW100's are infallible and it must be me!) Cheers I have a Bar Custom HW100 - for many years My Favorite Bench rifle - Try different Pellets We have many @ Lea Valley in use - Joys of a Club they try different pellets amongst each other It does make a great Difference Mine runs on Defiant 4.52's for Target Shooting Exterminator 9.50's for Hunting Defiant 15's for Rat's etc We have several .22's running on Defiant 5.52's At 14.00 grains they run faster and flatter than most other .22 pellets BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Op's forgot Mine was recently Serviced By Hull Cartridge - After Five years of Heavy Use Not aware of anyone capable of dealing with these as they are AT Fitted BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Op's forgot Mine was recently Serviced By Hull Cartridge - After Five years of Heavy Use Not aware of anyone capable of dealing with these as they are AT Fitted BOB/R If you don't mind me asking? How much does it cost to have a weihrauch posted too and serviced by hull cartridge? My 77k must be quite old now,(I am going to email hw and ask) and could more than likely do with a service Cheers! Edited March 25, 2011 by CZ452 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuta Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) Right, finally got around to some serious O.C.D inspired pellet testing!!! Started by giving the barrel a light spring clean, by blasting a load of Swan filter tips through. Then fired off 56 pellets (4 x magazines) of a given brand/type to condition the barrel before shooting three, five pellet groups. Another light clean and repeat the process......all pellets were straight from the tin, any with obvious defects discarded. Anyway, just for interest here are the measurements of the resulting groups, shot at 30yds, measured from edge to edge at the widest point..... AA Diabolo Field - 30mm, 35mm, 35mm (worst by a long way) JSB Exact - 25mm, 25mm, 20mm (lots of deformed pellets, although performed a lot better than I remembered) H & N FTT - 27mm, 25mm, 23mm Crosman Premier - 32mm, 37mm, 15mm Daystate .22 - 12mm, 22mm, 18mm (lots of deformed pellets) AccuPell - 15mm, 15mm, 20mm (10mm if one flyer discounted) Wanted to test Defiants, but couldn't source them. As you can see, AccuPells were head & shoulders above the rest, so wacked a full mag into an old piece of wood at 30yds. Didn't have a ruler with me, but all covered by a 5p piece (18mm give or take) I stopped testing there, as I was getting ear ache from the missus by then!! So, I take it all back - I am converted. Not the mythical 'pellet on pellet' but good enough for me. Just amazed at how pellet fussy these things are and the vast difference in performance of good pellets. Am p'd off that I didn't know about Accupells 18 months ago. I just think it's a shame that having spent the wrong side of £700 on a rifle before you start adding scopes etc., you have to carry out ridiculous levels of research to get the best from it!!!!! Edited March 27, 2011 by scuta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 So, I take it all back - I am converted. Not the mythical 'pellet on pellet' but good enough for me. Just amazed at how pellet fussy these things are and the vast difference in performance of good pellets. Am p'd off that I didn't know about Accupells 18 months ago. I just think it's a shame that having spent the wrong side of £700 on a rifle before you start adding scopes etc., you have to carry out ridiculous levels of research to get the best from it!!!!! Thats all part of shooting as i stated earlier its not worth the expence having it blue printed there are not many PCP that wont group well out of the box, if there is an accuracy problem its more than likely down to a poor barrel finish ie,a rough crown job. Finding a pellet that shoots well is part and parcel of your rifle there ae no fast rules you just have to find one that suits. Sounds like you have a good marriage there with your pellet rifle combo happy bunny bashing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuta Posted March 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Cheers for that. Am itching to get out & use it now. Apart from the odd, close range squidgy, I haven't hunted because I couldn't guarantee 'one shot, one kill' A bit of a cheesy line, but my rule of thumb for hunting and one that I mutter under my breath before pulling the trigger. It slows me down & makes me think! I always got the fact that different pellets would perform differently, however bearing in mind the tolerances of modern manufacture & engineering, I never imagined that it would be that different!! Thanks everyone for all your helpful tips & suggestions Cheers, Scuta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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