unapalomablanca Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 What is clover, where will i find it, what does it look like and what is its purpose? As you can tell i know nothing about it, only clover i know is the four leaf variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Its a 3 leaved ground covering plant that grows as a weed in pasture fields and in lawns until dealt with. It's purpose is the same as ours; to procreate and maintain the species. Woodpigeon gorge on it and it seems at times preferable to crops such as rape. It is not a crop itself, so it puts one on a sticky wicket when shooting woodies over it as it is patently not shooting for crop protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) It is usually found growing among grassland.And it is what you said only it is more the three leaf variety.It is grown as a crop round here by an organic farmer but but it is the purple clover. Edited April 19, 2011 by pigeonblasterian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Its a 3 leaved ground covering plant that grows as a weed in pasture fields and in lawns until dealt with. It's purpose is the same as ours; to procreate and maintain the species. Woodpigeon gorge on it and it seems at times preferable to crops such as rape. It is not a crop itself, so it puts one on a sticky wicket when shooting woodies over it as it is patently not shooting for crop protection. You can still be protecting crops in its vicinity, and if not then roost shooting is illegal too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwoodandy Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Farmers like it as it adds nitrogen to the soil and thus saves them having to pay for fertiliser... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 It is grown as a crop to make silage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Tenuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 It is grown as a crop to make silage. All the farms that I shoot over, dairy and beef, grow clover. It is sown at the same time as the grass seed and makes excellent silage, helping to keep milk yields up! Therefore it is a legitimate crop to shoot over and one of the best IMO. GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Still not convinced really. If it went to court, a strong prosecution would pour scorn. I'd happily shoot woodies wherever and don't necessarily agree with the 'for crop protection only' law. But we are stuck with the laws I suppose :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Still not convinced really. If it went to court, a strong prosecution would pour scorn. I'd happily shoot woodies wherever and don't necessarily agree with the 'for crop protection only' law. But we are stuck with the laws I suppose :blink: I can take you to several farmers that will love you to shoot pigeons eating clover for the nitrogen reasons stated. Some feed their cattle clover seeds so they then grow in the fields and are fertilised when they leave the cow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I can take you to several farmers that will love you to shoot pigeons eating clover for the nitrogen reasons stated.Some feed their cattle clover seeds so they then grow in the fields and are fertilised when they leave the cow. Its a date! Love shooting pigeon Daft thing is, I've never been challenged over shooting woodies for whatever reason - for me the discussion is purely theoretical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Its a date! Love shooting pigeon Daft thing is, I've never been challenged over shooting woodies for whatever reason - for me the discussion is purely theoretical. i've got ground at Nash & Gt Horwood Wait till June time and I'll take you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 i've got ground at Nash & Gt Horwood Wait till June time and I'll take you Nice one ! Not too far at all - I'm in Filgrave, near Newport Pagnell Will pm you closer to the time. In the meantime, I'll get practised up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well, can't believe it! Obviously I was on the wrong side of the discussion! Should have said clover is definitely not a crop and maybe I would have got an offer of some pigeon shooting I am. Only joking, it's good to see people getting together and sharing GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well, can't believe it! Obviously I was on the wrong side of the discussion! Should have said clover is definitely not a crop and maybe I would have got an offer of some pigeon shooting I am. Only joking, it's good to see people getting together and sharing GH If I fall in ****, I come up smelling of roses non? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 If I fall in ****, I come up smelling of roses non? Oui, ce vrai, je ponce! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPopper Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Plenty of clover on my permission - it's about 9 inches high at the moment. I don't have a gun dog - is it ok to walk out on it to collect runners - or am I going to get into trouble for trampling the crop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Farmers where I shoot are not bothered about me or the dog walking in the clover but they would not be happy if the dog pooed in the crop. Quite the opposite of cereals and OSR. Duncan; it is a crop because it is sown & harvested and if you opened the crops of shot pigeons at this time of year you will find them stuffed with clover. That crop full of clover isn't going to make it into the silage bag and so there is a legitimate reason to shoot pigeons as long as the other terms of the General Licence are met. If you are looking for a tenuous reason try looking at shooting over stubble :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Oui, ce vrai, je ponce! GH Lols! I can't make my mind up if you're deliberately mis-spelling the french or not - very funny either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Farmers where I shoot are not bothered about me or the dog walking in the clover but they would not be happy if the dog pooed in the crop. Quite the opposite of cereals and OSR. Duncan; it is a crop because it is sown & harvested and if you opened the crops of shot pigeons at this time of year you will find them stuffed with clover. That crop full of clover isn't going to make it into the silage bag and so there is a legitimate reason to shoot pigeons as long as the other terms of the General Licence are met. If you are looking for a tenuous reason try looking at shooting over stubble :yp: Fair enough UKP, I live and learn I never knew that folk actually sowed clover; until this thread, that is. Shooting over stubbles? Sounds shaky by the law, but quite frankly the law I think is a bit of an *** here. An agri-pest is an agri-pest. Whether its actively attacking a crop, or resting up between crop munching sessions. What can you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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