al4x Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Interesting one for those who neck shoot, buck fever or lack of practice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90V_Zp9nyL8 Edited May 25, 2011 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunspud Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Interesting one for those who neck shoot, buck fever or lack of practice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90V_Zp9nyL8 I would say Buck fever myself!! John wouldn't of given the ok for the first shot as the deer was facing him, he would of wanted him to wait for a better shot, i think the stalker got a bit jumpy seeing the doe hope into the hedge and rushed the shot along with the buck fever kicking in! 2nd shot good back stop and neck shot was on fine! 3rd shot again good back stop and fine dead deer. Edited May 25, 2011 by Shotgunspud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Stalker missed first two shots because he rushed them. Yes possibly to Buck fever. Possibly because most hobby stalkers don't practice enough. The final shot did as you'd expect with a head/neck shot beast, it dropped it stone! Deer had only one thing on their minds, sex, which is why they didn't run off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_haganizer Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Blimey.... I was screaming at the screen by the third shot then!! Never knew that the fever affects you so much at those shorter ranges!! Robo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I am guessing as I don't have the experience that some of you might have but I would suspect that the first shot was a typical case of "Buck Fever" kicking in and possible that the shooter might have misheard what was said when the guide said "That's the buck", thinking he meant for him to take the shot there and then. It does go to show how easily "Buck Fever" can kick in and cause what might be an excellent shooter to miss through maybe rushing the shot! At least the first 2 shots were clear misses and the animal didn't run off wounded. The third shot (Which he was fortunate enough for the buck to stick around for) resulted in a happy and instant conclusion to the stalk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 The first shot actually nicked it, graze on neck and across the back. Not too bad as it would have got better but could have been far worse though, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scragrat Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 The first shot actually nicked it, graze on neck and across the back. Not too bad as it would have got better but could have been far worse though, The actual quote from the guide- 'the buck was actually about 85m's and his neck was just creased, cutting hair.' No mention of a back injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 If it was nicked it could have got fly blown especially in this warm weather. Lucky the stalker who was with the client always takes his dog. I have taken neck shots but not at that distance, if the chap was having nerves he shouldn't take the shot. The shooter should know his limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 'That's the buck' could be misunderstood as an instruction to take the shot. I am guessing buck fever goes away eventually once you shoot a few deer? At least he got the roe in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I am guessing buck fever goes away eventually once you shoot a few deer? It's and odd one, apparently some never get rid of it, some never get it etc. I have never even thought about it shooting locally shooting muntjac and roe, but in Scotland faced with a group of hinds maybe 10 strong and up close and personal I have made some bad decisions and some not so good shots, when you consider the range and size of the kill zone wouldn't go as far to call it buck fever though. Sort of funny that the guy in the vid has all his drops at various ranges written on the inside of his scope cover, oh the irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 It's and odd one, apparently some never get rid of it, some never get it etc. I have never even thought about it shooting locally shooting muntjac and roe, but in Scotland faced with a group of hinds maybe 10 strong and up close and personal I have made some bad decisions and some not so good shots, when you consider the range and size of the kill zone wouldn't go as far to call it buck fever though. Sort of funny that the guy in the vid has all his drops at various ranges written on the inside of his scope cover, oh the irony I get it occasionally with Roe. The quicker I can take the shot the better,(considering backstops and so on).. If I have to take a free hand shot the heart rate goes through the roof! Especially if the deer is close,(little margin for error with movement/swirling wind ect). I have only shot a few roe and yet to loose one but I would love to just get over it. Maybe with a few more deer under my belt I won't even think about it wouldn't be as fun though if there was no excitement to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I would say Buck fever myself!! John wouldn't of given the ok for the first shot as the deer was facing him, he would of wanted him to wait for a better shot, i think the stalker got a bit jumpy seeing the doe hope into the hedge and rushed the shot along with the buck fever kicking in! 2nd shot good back stop and neck shot was on fine! 3rd shot again good back stop and fine dead deer. I have no doubts the guy knows what he is doing,(the guide) but does the ground not seem hellish flat? Or is the slight downward angle off the sticks acceptable? I have to say I prefer a big bank behind my shots but maybe I'm being OCD with safety? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I have no doubts the guy knows what he is doing,(the guide) but does the ground not seem hellish flat? Or is the slight downward angle off the sticks acceptable? I have to say I prefer a big bank behind my shots but maybe I'm being OCD with safety? Cheers! You'll never shoot many deer hoping for a bank behind each one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 You'll never shoot many deer hoping for a bank behind each one of them. I know that :yp: but would you guys deem shooting downwards off sticks like in the video okay? My ground is fairly 'hilly' which is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 yes if you know what is behind it, If there is a house 50 yards behind then no, but if you know there are no footpaths and houses and shooting down at a decent angle then its as safe as you can get with a small slope behind the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I know that :yp: but would you guys deem shooting downwards off sticks like in the video okay? My ground is fairly 'hilly' which is a bonus. Yes it's safe, as long as you are shooting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunspud Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I no the bloke(guide) better then most and he knows his ground like the back of his hand!! Safety first always with him. SGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I no the bloke(guide) better then most and he knows his ground like the back of his hand!! Safety first always with him. SGS I have no doubts he's fine...I guess I'm just overly careful with the .270! ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Yes it's safe, as long as you are shooting down. I disagree, I`ve had ricochets with 140gn sp 6.5`s.................VVVVV scary I can tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I notice in his other video's the one shot with the 6.5 goes down all right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I notice in his other video's the one shot with the 6.5 goes down all right Womans caliber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunspud Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) View PostShotgunspud, on 27 May 2011 - 07:18 PM, said: I no the bloke(guide) better then most and he knows his ground like the back of his hand!! Safety first always with him. SGS I have no doubts he's fine...I guess I'm just overly careful with the .270! ATB Sorry i didn't mean to jump on that it may of come across wrong,, But do people think the guide who is probably one of the best known Guides on PW and SD would put something on that may do his business any harm??? If you look at the roe doe at the end you can see just how much field is behind her! the field is the same both sides of that hedge!!! so a lot of back stop at the angle they were shooting!!( i have been in that same spot .) and on the the spot the shots are taken both hunters are at a high point in the field shooting down off of sticks with that much field as back stop it was a perfectly safe shot on all 3!!! And yes we all no the first shot should never of been taken due to it being face on as the guide said on the Clip, but buck fever gets us all at some point. SGS Edited May 28, 2011 by Shotgunspud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) View PostShotgunspud, on 27 May 2011 - 07:18 PM, said: I no the bloke(guide) better then most and he knows his ground like the back of his hand!! Safety first always with him. SGS I have no doubts he's fine...I guess I'm just overly careful with the .270! ATB Sorry i didn't mean to jump on that it may of come across wrong,, But do people think the guide who is probably one of the best known Guides on PW and SD would put something on that may do his business any harm??? If you look at the roe due at the end you can see just how much field is behind her! the field is the same both sides of that hedge!!! so a lot of back stop at the angle they were shooting!!( i have been in that same spot .) and on the the spot the shots are taken both hunters are at a high point in the field shooting down off of sticks with that much field as back stop it was a perfectly safe shot on all 3!!! And yes we all no the first shot should never of been taken due to it being face on as the guide said on the Clip, but buck fever gets us all at some point. SGS Wasn't critisising Edited May 28, 2011 by CZ452 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tick Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 I think the guy should have gone to "SPECSAVER'S" 3 Shot's OMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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