Polish Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Been plinking off with my springer today, makes a nice change to the PCP as it is more of a challenge to hit things! So was taking hand held shots rather than bipod mounted at 20 meters or roughly 65 feet. Opinions on my grouping? Need to zero the scope a little better by the looks of things however have managed to keep shots within a 10p coin group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 If that's free standing at 20 metres with a springer you are doing quite well. The only thing that I would do is to adjust your scopes to a POI about one inch higher! That's looks like a more than acceptable group with a springer mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste12b Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Very good would be my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 case in point a good springer is capable of tighter groups than a pre-charge this is because there is no power curve and they are very, very consistant. thing is they are harder to shoot which tends to disguise that fact bipods and springers just dont mix tidy hole there btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) I be pretty happy if I could do that free standing with a springer these days! Edited May 30, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I wouldn't say bipods and springers don't mix, if you can tame the recoil a bit you can do really well. Have a look on AAOC and search "sluggers bipod", pictures of 40 yard groups I shot with a tuned prosport on a dragon claw bipod. 5p size or smaller, well worth trying if only because everyone says it cant be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 case in point a good springer is capable of tighter groups than a pre-charge this is because there is no power curve and they are very, very consistant. thing is they are harder to shoot which tends to disguise that fact bipods and springers just dont mix tidy hole there btw Come on Kent, have I misinterpreted something here, I was excellent with my Springer years back and took free standing 25 yard shots at the 10p size knockdown, and my shooting pall and I were simply knocking then down and back up all day...but the time came for a PCP. Results were much more consistant! Sure, a PCP tails off after LOADS of shots when air pressure is depleted, that is hardly a fair comparison, during it's sweet spell it will destroy a springer! You don't seem to see many Springers in Competition these days! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Come on Kent, have I misinterpreted something here, I was excellent with my Springer years back and took free standing 25 yard shots at the 10p size knockdown, and my shooting pall and I were simply knocking then down and back up all day...but the time came for a PCP. Results were much more consistant! Sure, a PCP tails off after LOADS of shots when air pressure is depleted, that is hardly a fair comparison, during it's sweet spell it will destroy a springer! You don't seem to see many Springers in Competition these days! ATB! A misunderstanding old chap. Over the full range of a PCP air reservoir you will find a noticible difference in the power output from fully charged to nearly empty resulting in a wide verticle spread. You don't get that in a springer. However, as you say; taking a five shot group from either type the PCP is more likely to be more accurate in most shooter's hands as springers are men's guns for real men to shoot with whereas any girlie can point and shoot a PCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 A misunderstanding old chap. Over the full range of a PCP air reservoir you will find a noticible difference in the power output from fully charged to nearly empty resulting in a wide verticle spread. You don't get that in a springer. However, as you say; taking a five shot group from either type the PCP is more likely to be more accurate in most shooter's hands as springers are men's guns for real men to shoot with whereas any girlie can point and shoot a PCP. Ah,but you don't shoot a pcp from full charge to near empty. You find the sweet spot and near do away with the power curve. Sure, you can get 200 shots like the manufacturer says, but with about a 100 fps spread. Those of us with pcps known that 40 odd shots is the realistic count, and thats just fine for an evenings hunting. Though it is true, springers are a proper mans air rifle :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downie Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Those of us with pcps known that 40 odd shots is the realistic count Ahem! My PCP has a 500cc bottle on it - the 'realistic count' (from 85% full down to about 100bar) is about 350 shots! But yes, I do still feel a bit of a pansy next to the springer blokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Ahem! My PCP has a 500cc bottle on it - the 'realistic count' (from 85% full down to about 100bar) is about 350 shots! 350 shots in the sweet spot? Unless it's regulated then I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxnet22 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 good shooting there polish.well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 A misunderstanding old chap. Over the full range of a PCP air reservoir you will find a noticible difference in the power output from fully charged to nearly empty resulting in a wide verticle spread. You don't get that in a springer. However, as you say; taking a five shot group from either type the PCP is more likely to be more accurate in most shooter's hands as springers are men's guns for real men to shoot with whereas any girlie can point and shoot a PCP. Yep, pretty obvious, but that's rather like saying a pedal car is better than a petrol driven car as it stops when it runs out of petrol! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Yep, pretty obvious, but that's rather like saying a pedal car is better than a petrol driven car as it stops when it runs out of petrol! Cheers Simple explanation is that men shoot springers and girlies shoot PCPs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Simple explanation is that men shoot springers and girlies shoot PCPs! I have no hestitation in accepting the fact I am a Tart, I always look for the easy option and take every advantage I can get! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I have no hestitation in accepting the fact I am a Tart, I always look for the easy option and take every advantage I can get! Good Now, I'm sure that you will also accept without question that the choice of caliber, 22 or 177 is directly related to the shooter's IQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Bloody hell I must be a right mess then, .22 springer and Co2 guns and .177 PCP... Thanks for the comments guys, It was free standing at 20m indeed. 10 shot group not rushing anything just relaxed plinking. the PCP comes out for hunting and anything beyond that distance... bipod if needed. Bipods on springers is fine, think about real guns, they use bipods.. I don't see why springers shouldn't. When you hold a rifle you shouldn't fight the recoil and grip hard, so rested on a bipod won't do it any harm and should improve ease of aiming up, unless I'm missing something really important? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Bloody hell I must be a right mess then, .22 springer and Co2 guns and .177 PCP... Thanks for the comments guys, It was free standing at 20m indeed. 10 shot group not rushing anything just relaxed plinking. the PCP comes out for hunting and anything beyond that distance... bipod if needed. Bipods on springers is fine, think about real guns, they use bipods.. I don't see why springers shouldn't. When you hold a rifle you shouldn't fight the recoil and grip hard, so rested on a bipod won't do it any harm and should improve ease of aiming up, unless I'm missing something really important? The target? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Oooooooh.... So that's what I'm meant to point this thing at? I knew I'd learn something on this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick2 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) I was chuffed with this four shot group @ 26 YDS (messed up withe the 5th shot)from my 21yr old HW77 resting on a cushion on my window sill. Edited June 4, 2011 by nick2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Simple explanation is that men shoot springers and girlies shoot PCPs! absolutely true matey,this is why weihrauch invented the hw 80.nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Good work! Looks like we me have a little competition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason airarms tx Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I was chuffed with this four shot group @ 26 YDS (messed up withe the 5th shot)from my 21yr old HW77 resting on a cushion on my window sill. now your a man after my own heart ,scuse the pun.thats what i call a 1 hole group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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