ajm1979 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Variation arrived back yesterday after sending it back as they had forgot to put any ammo on for .17hmr and got fox condition added to it. Like a kid at xmas straight up to the gun shop to pick up my Sako Quad only to find out when I got there he had no 17grain bullets in stock so had to take a couple of boxes of Hornady 20grains. Set up a target and zero'd it first at 50 yards getting clover leaf groups just needed moving across a little, then took it back to just over 100, seems fine. Is anyone else using these or should I swap to 17grains as soon as they are back in stock?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 swap as soon as you can, they are iffy on foxes and bunnies unless you just take head shots. They tend to zip through leaving a tiny hole and not much damage which leads to runners as well as more ricochets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 been covered a lot of times - go back to 17gr ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 That's what I thought to be honest I was a bit annoyed to be honest he had none in stock as its a 15 mile drive to my nearest gun shop and would have thought 17gr Hmr and .22 subs must be the two most popular rounds and be in stock all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I know what you mean about zipping through. I was zeroing my new rig,using 20grn Hornady's(it was all the RFD had in stock).I had 3" thick wooden backstop,and they were going through it. But,saying that I was out in the field yesterday for the first time and took a magpie at about 50yds.Exit wound was about 1" diameter and almost took the wing off as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Well i'm going to give them a go on rabbits tonight see what they are like dont really want to waste the three boxes Ive got. Will be switching to v max as soon as they are in stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 As said, this has been covered a few times, I have asked the question and still await the answer, what is 20g used for, or better at, then 17g Ballistic tips...Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 i actually think it shoots slightly better - tighter grouping and less prone to wind drift - but i still don't use them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 As said, this has been covered a few times, I have asked the question and still await the answer, what is 20g used for, or better at, then 17g Ballistic tips...Cheers! Hate to say it but I recon they're designed with bigger quarry in mind? Look at the way other bullets are used, fragmenting in any calibre right up to the biggest is generally used for the smaller species and more controlled rounds allow the gun to be used for larger quarry. Whether it's .243 for Fox/Deer or .458 Lott for Kudu/Elephant. At the very extreme there is no expansion at all as that's the only way of getting the penetration required to do the job. How the HMR can be capable of larger quarry I don't know, but that's the only sensible reason I can come up with. Perhaps for Coyote etc use in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Good tip before setting of on a 15mile trip ring first to find out what you will be paying that way you will No they are instock and how much you will be charged an if you have a few shops around the same distance away ring to find out whats what. don't take second best ammo take the 20gr back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Simple answer is they are designed for less meat damage on edible quarry. Lots of the yanks use them on squirrels etc shame they just don't kill as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hate to say it but I recon they're designed with bigger quarry in mind? Look at the way other bullets are used, fragmenting in any calibre right up to the biggest is generally used for the smaller species and more controlled rounds allow the gun to be used for larger quarry. Whether it's .243 for Fox/Deer or .458 Lott for Kudu/Elephant. At the very extreme there is no expansion at all as that's the only way of getting the penetration required to do the job. How the HMR can be capable of larger quarry I don't know, but that's the only sensible reason I can come up with. Perhaps for Coyote etc use in the US? I just don't know, I'm still waiting for the I use 20g for .... because it is better than the 17g"! Coyote/fox , not sure, but the 17 works for me when I need it on fox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I have been using 20gr as i ran out of 17s and i find them spot on. Less damage and they are better for fox too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 i used the winchester 20grners and found them to be good. i did hear of them being used to kill a wounded red stag at about 60m and put it down on the spot!! in america they will us the 17 for bloody any thing hogs deer the lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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