mikeyp86 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 hey just wondering what the best and most money efficient way to charge this gun? also what is pcp? i keep seeing and i may sound stupid for asking but am interested what they are. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 a pcp is airgun that runs on compreesed air to charge rig up your charging kit make sure the bleed valve is knocked off put the gun on safe and cock the bolt ,, charge the gun to 190 bar slowly then close the tank , then bleed your kit and your ready to shoot:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXAHRBKB0Ww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp86 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 when the air tank is empty can i get it re filled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 you mean a scuba tank if so a dive center or some gun shops have there own compressors the guns air tank take to a gun shop or get a tank or pump:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) when the air tank is empty can i get it re filled A PCP is a Pre Charged Pneumatic, it's an air weapon (rifle or pistol) that relies on a supply of compressed air to provide the power to propel the pellet rather than a more conventional spring which is compressed by the 'cocking' action of an underlever or side lever or break barrel action. A PCP has an inbuilt air store, either in the form of a cylinder which forms part of the mechanism of the gun itself OR a bottle, both the cyclinder or the bottle have to be recharged after a number of shots from a larger reserve of air such as a Dive cylinder as typically used for Sub Aqua/Scuba, or commonly in air rifle circles smaller 7ltr or 3ltre bottles as seen in the chaps video link. Or by the use of specifically designed 'Stirrup pump' And yes a Dive cylinder whatever size can be refilled, typically for around a £5 Advantages of PCP are less recoil and therefore improved accuracy. Hope that helps Edited June 22, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 A pcp is a pre charges pnumatic ( how ever you spell that) the most money efficient way would be to buy a pump, but that takes effort, make sure it's unloaded, (mine doesn't have a safety, if it does put it on) just get the right fitting and start pumping, bleed an take off. the easy way is to buy a divers bottle which is dry breathing gas, get your nozzle and the right adapter for your gun there's 2 kinds so check before you buy. Simply click it on turn the bleed valve so it's closed and gently turn the **** so it goes Upto 200, if it squeks I think your fillig it too fast. open bleed valvle. Take off and away you go. I always blank fire mine 3 times as it's unsettled at first. Refill when down to 100 mine works best between 150-170. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 There are two ways of filling a Pre-Charged Pneumatic (PCP) airgun. You either use a divers bottle, which is filled as required by Dive shops at a cost of around £5 a fill, that will see the everage shooter through a couple of months or more. You also need the charging rig which connects the bottle and gun as demonstrated in the video. Alternatively you use a Stirrup Pump, this is manually pumped along the lines of a large bicycle pump. Basically you keep going until you reach the desired pressure. It's surprisingly hard work :blink: . It takes maybe 5 minutes of pumping to charge the gun, but I personally have to take a break in the middle! It's quite stiff pumping to get up to 200 bar or so. Most regular shooters use the dive bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 a pcp is airgun that runs on compreesed air to charge rig up your charging kit make sure the bleed valve is knocked off put the gun on safe and cock the bolt ,, charge the gun to 190 bar slowly then close the tank , then bleed your kit and your ready to shoot:) why would you cocky the gun, I've never done that in 15 years but as said already make sure you dry fire a few times. Fill airarms upto 2500 for its peak performance and a 3 litre bottle costs £2 to fill to 300bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp86 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 good pigeon shooter where are you based? im trying to find some where to charge my bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 when i got my bsa a little disk came with it and it said when filling cock the gun ,, somthing to do with pressure on a componet it also said when its charged its better to bleed it asap the recomended fill is to 190 there not much point in filling above 180 as they will be high,, for my s400 the sweet spot is between 100 165-170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Fenny Stratford is the nearest place to get yours recharged but they only run the compressor on certain days.A refill is £3 and if you like I will go thru the recharging cycle with you as I know it can be daunting first time.I,m less than 10 miles from you so if you have wheels and want to take me up on the offer or if you have the adaptor but no tank yet I will charge the gun for you-or let you do it using my tank-up to you.PM me and we can sort something out-I dont bite. Recharge facility is called Dive Central (07407 401291) Edited June 23, 2011 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imissalot Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 There are two ways of filling a Pre-Charged Pneumatic (PCP) airgun. You either use a divers bottle, which is filled as required by Dive shops at a cost of around £5 a fill, that will see the everage shooter through a couple of months or more. You also need the charging rig which connects the bottle and gun as demonstrated in the video. Alternatively you use a Stirrup Pump, this is manually pumped along the lines of a large bicycle pump. Basically you keep going until you reach the desired pressure. It's surprisingly hard work :blink: . It takes maybe 5 minutes of pumping to charge the gun, but I personally have to take a break in the middle! It's quite stiff pumping to get up to 200 bar or so. Most regular shooters use the dive bottle. 5 mins to charge it your doing it wrong :o ,dont wait till its empty before charging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ben- Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 dont suppose you could give some advise my s410 gets filled with a pump but i let it run low on pressure i dint relise how low it was and now its released all the air but got it filled today with a diver. the problem now is it is holding 190bar but wont fire its cocked and theres no click when you pull it back even after you pull the trigger and pull the bolt back again. i was wondering if it could be a jammed valve. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFPS Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 for my s400 the sweet spot is between 100 165-170 Mine too. I only fill to 165-170. More consistent FPS and saves on air as a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 5 mins to charge it your doing it wrong :o ,dont wait till its empty before charging That's from about 100 bar, no point in letting an S400 get any lower. It takes me (being a more mature gentleman)about 2 minutes of steady pumping, have a rest, then top it off. Probably 5 minutes from picking the pump up to putting it away. It's why I bought a bottle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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