muckybear Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 hi gang new to pigeon shooting only been doing it since december went to my field today thought o **** how am i going to decoy over this it is about 3ft to 4ft high and flowering how do i decoy over it please thanks in advance?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) I beleive they are called bouncers It's a LONG wire with a pigeon cradle on top and raises your bird over the crops so they can be seen. Personally i would be looking for a clearing where they have been previously feeding and doing a bit of recon to see if they still frequent the area. If so set up and use your normal decoys in the clearing with a bit of movement they may want to investigate? LG Edited April 23, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 how am i going to decoy over this it is about 3ft to 4ft high and flowering find another spot mate, you will not be the farmers best Friend if you start causing more damage than the pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missedagainstan Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 I agree with Markbivvy, to much damaged caused setting up and findind shot birds. Have a look for spring drillins if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspartacus Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 if there are any pigeons feeding on the field they shouold lead you to a spot which has been grazed shorter, they'll tend to stick to those spots, and so should you, don't want to be trampling on farmers crops and your deeks won't be seen on the long stuff. IAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 If it’s 4ft high and in flower, then I don’t think you will get anything on there feeding anyway. Why not wait until it’s been cut and then wait for the birds to come in to feed on the stubbles. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claybreaker88 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 If it’s 4ft high and in flower, then I don’t think you will get anything on there feeding anyway. Why not wait until it’s been cut and then wait for the birds to come in to feed on the stubbles. G.M. Hi Same here rape where i shoot is in flower but cannot remember roughly when this is cut can anyone tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missedagainstan Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hi Same here rape where i shoot is in flower but cannot remember roughly when this is cut can anyone tell me. Usually down here in Oxfordshire combines pull in the field 2nd & 3rd week in July, may be earlyer weather depending, not looking forward to that as its my job to fix them when they break down :blink: Only up side is , get to meet plenty of farmers (well thats a downer realy) for new fields to shoot over :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspartacus Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yep, in suffolk its usually early to mid july, obviously weather depending. You might find that pigeons will start feeding on the crop just before it is about to be harvested. I think the ripe seed is easily dislodged from the plant and pigeons will feed on that even if the plant is very high. The farmer will be only too happy to let you shoot them if they are on their way to the crop but I don't think decoying on it would be possible as you definitely would do more damage than the pigeons!! IAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Don't bother. Find somewhere else. Find the pigeons 'cause it's highly unlikely they'll be on rape that high. This time of year it's almost got to be spring drillings, first flush of growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROB REYNOLDS UK Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 i had a good day on the wheat sunday it was 9" high dont ask me what they were feeding on but they were on it and came in like a good un B) farmer just put in the peas in yesterday may have a look at them tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Look for an old established tree in the field which is below a pigeon flight line. Pigeons have their own set of A roads and B roads. A big tree will suck everything out the immediate soil around it and you will get stunted rape growth round the tree which then becomes easy pickings for the pigeons to get at. Damage patterns start from trees like this and then spread. A big tree's canopy also gives frost cover to the ground underneath making whatever is growing in it accessible for pigeons early on in the year. I know f'all about this caper but picked this up from a farmer last weekend - a top day out, and learnt lots. Get yourself a telescopic rotary pigeon decoy (aka pigeon magnet). Saw one in action and it really does suck 'em in. A few decoys up in the trees won't hurt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspartacus Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well I can tell you they're still on the rape round here, have hardly hit the drillings at all at least not on the 900 acres of permission I have. They just keep to the short stuff, which is very short in places only a couple of inches high where there has been constant grazing. IAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 They are still on the OSR here too. Mostly on the shorter rape, with some on the uncultivated strips, bordering the fields, and eating rape and weeds etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I think it was bigsam who mentioned shooting OSR,where it had been heavily grazed over winter. I have had good bag in late april-may. The birds up here go from OSR to drillings then back to OSR, keep an eye on spring rape,always a good bet and less of it than the winter stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'm waiting for the lupins to go in, and the move to clover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Yep, whoever said don't bother was right. Went out today, very promising start. Used 2 rotary decoys, large horseshoe pattern and two hides set up. Within 30 seconds of setting up, a pigeon from about 1 mile aways clocks the rotaries and pattern and comes *straight in* like it was on a piece of string (I fully understand why they call then pigeon magnets). Excitement is then high. We think we have cracked the magic pattern / set up. But..... After that, nothing. Not a sighting let alone a sniff of a pigeon, or anything come to mention it. They have all ******** off after the peas now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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