Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Personally I am impressed by good shooting, and whilst this is very accurate long range shooting - I wouldnt do it if I could, because its not 'good' shooting. Supposed the target had been wounded ? Second shot? Drive half a mile. I would stick to targets and always kill game/ vermin at close range - so close I could despatch quickly in the event of a wounding. This isnt willy waving, I accept that but for me its morally indefensible - sorry Ackley - it just isnt necessary because there are targets and there are live quarry. I hope he has vermin on his ticket and is aware of the Animal Welfare Act 2006. I find this savage and uncivilsed. Just my opinion. no need to say sorry to me mate,you have your opinion and I have mine,it would be a boring world if we were all the same,whilsy I respect your opinion you must respect others. if long range aint your thing thats no problem but please dont say were wrong to do so, we live in modern times,people are wanting ultimate accuracy better scopes precision made bullets,life and the sport can only go forward,your either go with it or get left behind,lets face it if we didnt go forward we would still be throwing spears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 "Doing all you can to ensure a clean kill" This is exactly what the lang range shooter strives to do by equipping himself with correct equipment to do the job. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Doing all you can to ensure a clean kill isnt hypocritical, you may fail but you honestly try. My posts surprisingly are reflections of what I actually try to do. Yes its easy to be an a**e behind a keyboard as you have confirmed but its a lot better (morally) than being an A**e behind a scope sight with a live animal in front half a mile away. Get real, we are not a bunch of thrill seeking killers, we are responsible shooters. If you are a responsible shooter, you dont kill animals at this distance, even if you can and that I dont doubt with the OP. Kes I respect you for being responsible in your shooting but I don't think you grasped what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Obviously there is a massive difference in the level of skill involved, but when a mole was shot with a centrefire for fun the poster was accused of bringing the sport into disrepute by the same people who are lapping this up, surely this is exactly the same thing just from a lot further away - no? yes exactly, I left the mole incident as I know you have to find something to shoot with a 338. In this case we have skill this and skill that and the poster confirming his shots are in a 4" circle, now to my mind there was no adjustment needed just another shot if he missed with the first one an inch over the top. We are told it was a chest shot with a 6.5 bullet it wasn't as it would have dropped on the spot. Centrefire bullets don't simply fail on rabbits It was shot in a leg or the backside simple he didn't pick it up it was confirmed at dead at 30 mag from where he sat when you won't be able to analyse where it was hit. 4" might keep some people happy at 100 yards on deer but I'm yet to know anyone who would go bunny bashing with a rimfire that grouped 4" at 100 yards but I'd be interested to hear who would. I'm sure we haven't seen the end of the willy waving videos but showing quarry wounded doesn't show the sport in a good light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'd be interested in the shot grouping at that range can u post a target shot at 1/2 a mile on the forum??? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 so what your saying is you have never wounded any creature at 35yds 100 yrds or 300 yrds .and you always had your dog with you to retreive it . there was a thread on here awhile back where a certain gent ? claimed he never ever wounded a pigeon while out pigeon bashing always 100% kills.[**** ].we all make mistakes its fact the long shot in question was a excellent shot at that range i for one can appreciate a decent long range shot like that i wouldnt try it myself as i am not confident enough to try it. but it is obvious this guy is capable [sp] at these ranges .i have yet to meet a shooter who hasnt shot and injured a rabbit at a lot closer ranges that hasnt crawled of to the hedge dragging it self before it died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 :o :o :o you surely can shoot!!! when that camera backed up i taught, **** me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) yes exactly, I left the mole incident as I know you have to find something to shoot with a 338. In this case we have skill this and skill that and the poster confirming his shots are in a 4" circle, now to my mind there was no adjustment needed just another shot if he missed with the first one an inch over the top. We are told it was a chest shot with a 6.5 bullet it wasn't as it would have dropped on the spot. Centrefire bullets don't simply fail on rabbits It was shot in a leg or the backside simple he didn't pick it up it was confirmed at dead at 30 mag from where he sat when you won't be able to analyse where it was hit. 4" might keep some people happy at 100 yards on deer but I'm yet to know anyone who would go bunny bashing with a rimfire that grouped 4" at 100 yards but I'd be interested to hear who would. I'm sure we haven't seen the end of the willy waving videos but showing quarry wounded doesn't show the sport in a good light. this just shows you lack of knowlage and experience in ballistics,have you ever had a bullet fail have you ever seen what happens when a bulet fails | I will ask again how long have you been shooting a centre fire rifle ?? as to a rimmy shooting at 4 inch,yes it does happen,the inexperienced amongst us who dont know any better,I know a chap who just set up with a rimmy,had the scope fitted in the shop the shop bore sighted it for him and off he went. the guy never knew he had to zero the scope he found out were the shots were landing and then held the target somewhere in the x hairs so yes stupid things do happen to those who have no idea I just have no idea why you keep coming back onto this thread when you have made your feeling quite clear.you carry on shooting your 70 yard foxes and posting the photos on this site and leave the complicated skillfull shots to the guys who can by the way videos showing true accounts will not hurt anything,you stick to your fairy tale magazines Edited August 16, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'd be interested in the shot grouping at that range can u post a target shot at 1/2 a mile on the forum??? Just curious Im more interested in the camera used must be a good un for the range involved, at 1/2 a mile my 8x binos would barely make out a bunny :unsure: KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunspud Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nice shooting mate well done again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 as to a rimmy shooting at 4 inch,yes it does happen,the inexperienced amongst us who dont know any better,I know a chap who just set up with a rimmy,had the scope fitted in the shop the shop bore sighted it for him and off he went. so lets get it right 4" grouping at a given range is fine because its only a rabbit. You're talking out of your harris again Ackley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) so lets get it right 4" grouping at a given range is fine because its only a rabbit. You're talking out of your harris again Ackley. where did I say that,stop making things up to suit yourself I will ask again "how long have you had a centre fire rifle" you seem to be aviding the question. aslo I read on a public forum you would shoot a cat,now whos putting shooting in a bad light Mmmmmmmmmmmmm real clever "had it been that cat that attacked the foxpro last time I might have been tempted to make a mistake" Edited August 16, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Im more interested in the camera used must be a good un for the range involved, at 1/2 a mile my 8x binos would barely make out a bunny :unsure: KW me too, what camera you got?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 trawling hard now ackley been shooting centrefires ony 5 years rimmies for 10, if you knew the cat in question you would realise why that was very tongue in cheek with another person who witnessed it. One thing you would never do is shoot the landowners cat if you wanted to be invited back. I could trawl your posts where you ridicule people being happy with a 4" group on deer at 100 yards. Round here deer are a far larger target than our rabbits so the double standards are well up there and again I'll refer you to the talking out of your harris part of the post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Perhaps I need to be more specific given certain audience. The 3-4" spread was horizontal and due to wind. Elevation spread was less than 2". This was over 5 shots. Immediately following shots were less as can be seen in the video. .25 MOA was removed and the next shot hits the same spot. 25 MOA lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 That's probably as good a point as any to put this one to bed, as we seemed to have reached the name calling phase of the thread once again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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