ratcatcher2250 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi am wanting to buy another rifle thinking of getting a pcp rifle a airarms S410 or S510 but i were thinking are these rifles worth me haveing as iaint got fac so only be able to have the 12Ftlb and another prob i have is i carnt decide witch cal to get 1 in 1.77 or 2.2 thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 i was faced with the .177 / .22 debate wilst choosing which SMK XS to get - i usally shoot .22 so i went for .177 for a change and i think i made a good decision, i think it ultimately comes down to personal preference there are millions of threads covering this topic and have a read, if you dont already know about trajectory and shots per fill and everything and penetration and stopping power and the list goes on, i really dont believe there is a "better caliber" as the arguments for each balance themselfs out. Allot of people shoot .177 on here so i was tempted to stray from .22 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 My S410 is a superb bit of kit. i have taken many 50+ yards kills with it and its sub 12 ft/lbs. Its super accurate, i have mine in .177 caliber. I was always a .22 fan but since i swapped i will never go back .177 all the way for me now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher2250 Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Thanks for the replies i have all ways wounderd why you get more shots per fill out of 22 than 177 will have to read some stuff i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 In Sub 12, I don't think you can beat .177. it's A very forgiving calibre at lower power levels. I have a Mk1 Rapid & an MFR, Both in .177 cal. Both are equally accurate and very effective out to 60 yards on a still day. I used to have a AA S410 in .22, but once i had the Rapid in .177, the kill rate increased considerably. So on that score I'd effeminately go .177 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Depends what you want the gun for really? You ask whether it's worth having at sub 12, well, if you want to be able to shoot rabbit/rats/pigeons out to 50 yards, then yes, it's fine. If you want to go much more than that then you will start to struggle. I use an AirArms S400 in .177 and have shot rabbit cleanly at 60 yards. However, that was because I underestimated the range. It will cleanly kill all day long at 45-50 yards, the accuracy is still very tight at that range. I have no issues with not cleanly killing with a 177. If it's on target, it will kill them with a head shot from 8 yards out to 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) Depends what you want the gun for really? You ask whether it's worth having at sub 12, well, if you want to be able to shoot rabbit/rats/pigeons out to 50 yards, then yes, it's fine. If you want to go much more than that then you will start to struggle. I use an AirArms S400 in .177 and have shot rabbit cleanly at 60 yards. However, that was because I underestimated the range. It will cleanly kill all day long at 45-50 yards, the accuracy is still very tight at that range. I have no issues with not cleanly killing with a 177. If it's on target, it will kill them with a head shot from 8 yards out to 60. Its accuracy that counts not the calibre, or the power levels, hit the kill zone= dead prey i shoot all the calibres consistant accuracy is the goal. regards Brian Edited August 21, 2011 by happyshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid basher Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 wouldyou get extra range with a 177 with the tragectry being flater or let me refrase it would it be easyer to juge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher2250 Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Had a good think and read think i am going to go with the air arms S510 in .177 just wish i could get the xtra fac version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the replies i have all ways wounderd why you get more shots per fill out of 22 than 177 will have to read some stuff i think Put simply, cos thats what I understand, .177 calibre has a smaller surface area for the air to act on hence it needs more air than the bigger area of a .22 pellet. Edited August 23, 2011 by Good shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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