vmaxphil Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 sorry if i missed the point, but aren't you jumping the gun a bit as at the age of 16 you wont be able to have a gun or ammunition until you are 18 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG6065 Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 You can hold a SGC at 16 have the firearm and ammunition but you cannot buy either of them until your 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 sorry long time since i read the regs glad your more up with it than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 they have to be "given" for under 18's and it makes life interesting in the regs. As your over 15 (under 15's need an adult IIRC) shouldnt be an issue not sure on the interview process tho if it's just you or if guardian has to be present? But i would speak to FEO before fitting cabinet in the loft! Life is a lot easier if you don't have go into the loft (one issue io heard of was FEO's cant go into lofts due to H&S regs..... so cant inspect cabinet, so no good!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 just a small point - if you have a cabinet in the loft - use it. I know at least one person who, after a hard days shooting, 'forgot to' - (maybe too tired) to put his gun all the way up in the loft. Sadly he was burgled and his gun taken - he lost his cert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 From someone who has the cabinet in the loft cut the skirting and put it where you can get to it easily! It will take 2 minutes and it is in a cupboard so not exactly a craftsman's job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG6065 Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yeah decisions decisions ! I'm going to ring up the firearms department in the morning and just find out what's what ! Don't fancy putting it in the loft then it having to be moved downstairs again ! Thanks for your help guys really appreciate it ! This is a great forum with people who actually want to help the youngsters get involved and keep the passion alive ! Cheers fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yeah decisions decisions ! I'm going to ring up the firearms department in the morning and just find out what's what ! Don't fancy putting it in the loft then it having to be moved downstairs again ! Thanks for your help guys really appreciate it ! This is a great forum with people who actually want to help the youngsters get involved and keep the passion alive ! Cheers fellas Best phone them,did just that this morning.Just moved into another house,nowhere in the house so loft was really the only option.The brick walls up there were a tad rough and uneven so not ideal to mount a cabinet so with the agreement of the FEO it was okayed to coach bolt them to the rafters and beams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg123 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Mine is in the loft just as you are planning. Quite funny because when my firearms officer came round he was to big to get in the loft. All he could do was stand on the ladder and stick his head through the hatch. He passed it off with no problem. If you think about it from their point of view its probably safer up there because very few burglars look in the loft as they dont want to hang around inside the house. Edited August 29, 2011 by pg123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 There is NO legislation that states the cabinet should be fixed to brick or block, it is to be fixed to the FABRIC of the building. That can equally mean timber studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 There is NO legislation that states the cabinet should be fixed to brick or block, it is to be fixed to the FABRIC of the building. That can equally mean timber studs. Indeed and with the popularity of timber framed housing and ultra efficient insulation blocks and render coating brick walls are long gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Ive not rread all this thread so apologies if this has been covered.Can you not fix tbe cabinet under the stairs with a piece of tinber the thickness of the skirting sandwiched between the cadinet and the wall and bolt through it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcooke25552 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 No problems with it in the loft. Mine is up there. The feo who came to check it happens to be the one who did both my unlces and archie1234 (off here) renewal about 3 weeks previous where she swung off both of their cabinets. However she didn't enter the loft at mine so I think you are on to something with h an s. However. I regret putting mine up there as it is a ball ache after a long days shooting and when you are trying to get to the marsh at 5am with out waking up my mum !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 there is an issue with it in the loft as the tendancy after a nights lamping is not to bother putting the gun away. Some forces like it less than others but personally its the last place I'd put mine and thats as much to do with access as it is the fact lofts aren't the warmest of places to store expensive guns and they tend to rust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) my cabinate is fitted in my bedroom couboard,,i was adviced to sit my cabinate on a breeze block that i cut down to the same width of the cabinate to raise it above the skirting board...also my walls are plaster board with a cavity then therma-light blocks,was adviced to fit threaded bar (used 10mm) into the therma-block with a resin (raw bolts would have just blown the blocks when tightend up),then bolt the cabinate to the threaded bar.... Edited August 31, 2011 by simjakcal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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