cockercas Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Hello. I've had a phone call this evening asking me to come and dispatch a deer on a farm a few miles up the road. The deer is a roe buck. And the best way he could describe it was like a rabbit with mixy. It was blind or very limited sight and deaf or very nearly deaf. He said it would not get up out of the tram lines for the tractor and when he got out he said he nearly touched it before it moved slowly away. Any ideas what is wrong with it. I know deers can carry anthrax. Never heard of in the uk tho. I've got to go and look for it tomorrow night as its the only time someone can show me were it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon street Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Might be best to have vet look at it. might do an Autopsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Yer but who pays for it. The farmer won't pay for it and I'm not going to. (Please take this in a polite way I've read it and it sounds like I'm been a rooster) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I wonder if DEFRA might send a vet, if only to discount it being something transmissable to livestock? Or give BDS a ring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 have a read of this... http://www.bestpracticeguides.org.uk/health_diseases.aspx TB is a chronic and progressive disease that can cause gradual debilitation and emaciation, coughing, nasal discharge, and difficulty breathing. Small lesions or abscesses may be visible inside the chest cavity, covering the lungs, liver, and ribcage in late developed individuals. Many individuals in the early stages of TB may not have any symptoms. Because it is a slow progressing disease, it does not have an important impact on herd dynamics. It's a slim chance it could be Bovine TB or CWD, in which case i'd immediately inform your local divisional veterinary manager, they will come out (and you won't have to pay for it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 http://www.bestpracticeguides.org.uk/health_diseases.aspx Scroll down to where it describes the symptoms of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) Sounds like it to me and it is a legal requirement to notify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I have no idea, but if you ever get an answer please post it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Your local office..... Yorkshire and Humber Animal Health Regional Office Olympia House Gelderd Lane Gelderd Road Leeds LS12 6DD Email: ah.yorksandhumber@animalhealth.gsi.gov.uk Telephone: 0113 279 6121 Fax: 0113 2610212 Nightline: 0113 2300100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 http://www.bestpracticeguides.org.uk/health_diseases.aspx Scroll down to where it describes the symptoms of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) Sounds like it to me and it is a legal requirement to notify it. No it isn't a legal requirement. According to the link, it's the deer equivalent of Scrapie and BSE (which ARE notifiable), but there have been no recorded cases in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 i would give them a ring and have a chat none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I was just writing a reply. I got to a point that I wrote I would of asked my granddad (he died early this year) who would of known. Then I had a light bulb moment and phoned his friend Chris. Chris manages deer on 30,000 acres in Scotland. After describing it he said deer collect a lot of injuries at this time of year so it could be septicaemia. He ruled out TB. And said if it has a large set of antlers its Probably nearing the end of its life and its bodys shutting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ok Chris has just phoned back to say shoot it and bury it were it falls. And not to touch it especially if There is signs of blood from its nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ok Chris has just phoned back to say shoot it and bury it were it falls. And not to touch it especially if There is signs of blood from its nose if its bleeding from the nose and looks deseased v.badly don't even go near it, the likely hood is though injury leading to blood poisoning seen it many times- often the result of poaching with shotguns etc. Bleeding from the nose is a posibility of Anthrax highly contagous and certain death unless you have had the jab for it ( i don't think there has ever been a case of anthrax in mainland uk Deer though so you would be extreamly unlucky and the deer would be dead by now chances are) Blood from the nose is of course quite ok if you shoot one in the lungs chances are you will be able to walk right up to this one and finish it so do it right and make it quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Had I similer thing with a red stag a few years ago . My farmer friend asked me to come and have a look at a red stag that was lying in a hedge row and unable to move with out great difficulty . When I got there the poor old beast was trying to crawl along on its belly . I immediately shot it thinking that it had been poorly shot . I rolled it over and could not find any evidence of it being shot or any evidence of it being hit by a car . What we did notice was that it had an extremely swollen stomach . Because my farmer at the time was a big cattle man he called in a vet to have a look at the stag in case it was carrying some decease. The vet and I gutted it and what a stink it made it was most foul . Any how to cut a long story short after some tests the vet decided that it had been feeding on a certain variety of rape that had been killing off lots of wild life . I carnt for the life of me remember what the variety was but it was banned the very next year as being a danger to the wild life of this country . Harnser . Edited October 6, 2011 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 There's a load of rubbish in this thread. I don't mean to criticise anyone in particular, but the chances of it being anthrax and found alive are so unbelievably remote. If it has an injury and septicaemia (blood poisoning) then it needs shooting, but it no risk to you - just don't eat it. If it looks like myxi (red swollen eyes) then it could be malignant catarrhal fever, http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/Factsheets/pdfs/malignant_catarrhal_fever.pdf se see it sporadically in cattle. There is no cure and the animal will die. The picture is a cow but you get the idea http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Malignant_catarrhal_fever_eye_large_ring.jpg It's almost certainly not TB in West Yorks. Is there no way you can go and shoot this deer tonight? Leaving it 24 hours doesn't seem the nicest idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I believe from stalkers over near Leeds that TB is about, no personal direct experiance. Talk of anthrax is of course less likely than being hit by lightning in the next three minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Deer do carry anthrax. No known cases in the uk. I was using it as an example as to the severity of disease deer can carry. I'm in east not west Yorkshire. I never asked your opinion if deer can carry TB. Deer can carry TB. However unlikely it is there is a chance. And no if you read my post I don't have permission to shoot There I have only been asked to come and dispatch it. So I can only go tonight (in the dark) when someone can take me around the farm. As my stalker friend said. It could be dying of old age but until I have laid my eyes on the animal I couldn't tell you what's wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I would be interested in whats wrong with it . Please keep us up dated . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Did this get done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I saw the same deer, blind as but not deaf. Bit thin, still in full summer coat and a medal head. I also saw it feeding later so its not starving to death. But needs culling all the same. Ran off when I approached to see what its problem was (suspected it was an RTA as it was couched down near a road). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Had a look for a couple of hours last night not the best conditions blowing a cold gale. I thort I found it but apparently it was not the one. Was going to look at dinner but no one wants to go look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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