beatingisbest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 http://www.crosman.com/2004/img/summer-hou...c/lg/180_lg.jpg An original Crosman 180 dated 1956 http://www.pellpax.co.uk/acatalog/RatSniper.JPG A QB78 Very Similar Dont you think? :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 The QB78, otherwise known as a 'RatSniper' has been around for a bit now.. Im sure all copyright issues would have been dealt with by now. But it is a complete rip of the Crosman I agree :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 copyrighting runs out unless the owner renews them on a yearly basis i think..(out of interest the price of your copyrighting is dependant on how much the product is worth..)..The ratsniper has probabaly just used the same plans from the old design or is under an 'agreement' or license..........:yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 if memory serves me correctly QB stands for quakcenbush or quack and bush, the people who designed the crossman rifle, so it is entierly possible that they leased the patent to crossman and that lease has now expired so they are free to lease the patent to another company. But i admit i could be totaly wrong about that point. ROB :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc M Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 A chap brought one of these QB guns into my shop last week, he wanted a new scope for it. My thoughts at the time were "obvious Crossman copy" but the above copyright rules do sort of make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 A lot of american copyrights needs renewed as do a lot of other countries (except the UK) The Yanks found this out over the claim THEY thought of AND patented the internet where infact it was BRITISH TELECOM who were the first to come up with the idea and patent it. The Americans thought the UK patents run out the same as THEIRS but not so Cost them a VERY large amount for breech of copyright when BT took them to court :yp: LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plexer Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 BT didn't invent the Internet it was their claim that they had invented and patented hyperlinks. Links embedded within pages that allow you to navigate to other pages/sites. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I just think it is abit of a rip off in design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hawk Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi, copy right aside, is the rabbit stopper really a stopper or a flopper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi, copy right aside, is the rabbit stopper really a stopper or a flopper? Rabbitstopper?? What has a rabbitstopper got to do with this topic? to answer your question- if you just use them 'straight from the factory' they are not worth buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hawk Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi, copy right aside, is the rabbit stopper really a stopper or a flopper? Rabbitstopper?? What has a rabbitstopper got to do with this topic? to answer your question- if you just use them 'straight from the factory' they are not worth buying. Sorry, I got slightly confused. The rat sniper (QB78) looks exactly the same as the crossman rabbit stoper and is also billed as having the same power. (pellpax.co.uk) web site. This gun gets a lot of hype on various sites, I was just wondering if it was worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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