.17hmr

[mossy835]

i want to add a .17hmr on to my fac,do i say for long range rabbits and fox.is that enough to get it.

[Hunter]

You should probably call them first.. some areas dont like to give HMR for fox, as it is not quite big enough, unless you are a good shot :yp:

 

Call them first, see if its ok, but make sure you say CLOSE RANGE not 175 yard foxes

As for the rest, put down ''long range ground vermin control''

And if you can, ask for a Moderator for ''health and safety''

 

 

Shouldnt be a problem getting it if you already have .22 rimfire or bigger centerfires

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

I agree with Hunter - ask for "Long range vermin".

 

I don't even know if I would even mention foxes - any other opinions out there?

 

I would certainly give them a call first.

 

Don

[apbuild]

Reason?

 

.17hmr is generally more accurate than .22 and out to longer distances. It is also less prone to riccochet.

 

Good enough reason for vermin control.

[mossy835]

i have an open ticket for .22,will they want to check land and will i have to get a named farm for the .17hmr. thanks for all the replys.

[Hunter]

If your ticket is open, they wont check the land. Thats the whole point of an open ticket. The shooter is the one that decides wether a land is suitable for the firearm he/she is using. I didnt think you get some firearms open and some not open, so im pretty sure they wont check.

But give them a call! just a 10 min call will answer all your qeuries..

[Dave-G]

My understanding is that land cleared for .22lr is also cleared for 17HMR, given that it's a safer round.

 

If you were going to use something bigger than .22, I believe that would be on a closed ticket, and the land would need to be cleared again for that calibre.

[webber]

It is my understanding that when land is passed for firearms thats it. Calibre does not come into it. Am I wrong?

 

webber

[Dead-Eyed Duck]

It is my understanding that when land is passed for firearms thats it. Calibre does not come into it. Am I wrong?

 

webber

 

Common sense (?) says that this would not be so.

 

It is difficult to appreciate that a few fields approved for a 0.22 rimmy would be approved for, say, a 0.270 without inspection.

 

However, I could be wrong, as common sense is rare nowadays.

 

Don

[Hunter]

Not sure.. lots of people say the FAC guy had to come back and have another look when moving into the centerfire era.

[webber]

Chaps

 

Its worth reading the comments made by BASC on their web site. Whilst there click onto the home office guida nce for police. In particular chapters 10 and 13.

 

The dilema here is that a shooter may not shoot a piece of land, because he has a closed condition, and the land has not been passed by police. Whilst the same land may be shot by a shooter who has an open condition, and has conducted his own risk assesment.

 

Land is neither safe nor unsafe, for any or all calibres. Safety primarily rests with the capability and integrity of the shooter. Hence many police forces donot readily issue open condition certificates, but will do so when the shooter can demonstrate sufficient compitence and experience.

 

I requested an open ticket after 3 years, but was told that I had to wait untill I had my license for 5 years. Fortunateley I now only have a few months to go.

[Axe]

Mossy, as has been mentioned, phone your FEO to discuss your requirements and see how the 17HMR fits in with Fox. If you don't ask, you won't get.

 

Dave, Sussex see the .17HMR as smaller, safer calibre so any land deemed suitable for a .22LR is automatically clear for the .17HMR. However, I have since found out that Kent are exactly the oppposite on this rule and will not simply clear the .17HMR beacuse the land is clear for .22LR.

 

Webber, Sussex Police do not openly clear land for use with any calibre. They vet both the land and the shooter requesting its clearance (if not already clear). After which they grant a suitable calibre. Nothing over this calibre can be used. Everytime we get a new shoot we have to phone it through to find out what itis cleared for.

 

My experience with my FEO's has been good and they can't do enough for you, if I have a question they answer it or advise me accordingly with no fuss.